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Quote:John Hanson wasn't a black man. Even the link you provided to "prove he is a black man" says he wasn't a black man.

TD! run come bring pictures of Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Andrew Jackson...Ludwig Van Beethoven, Joseph Hayden etc etc etc and tel me what you see... : : :

yes that's right...white men.  but it is known without a doubt that they all were black..down to the lawsuits based on evidence as to whom Abe Lincoln belonged, from whom he descended  who ran away from slavery.  by right Lincoln was old marse's property..and the lawsuit sought to have him returned to his lawful master.

and that aint all.  they used to call Abe Africanus.  and political cartoons of the day made fun of him as Africanus.

I know what the Link I posted says.  I dont care!  'we all know Hansen was a negro' ::LOL:: ::LOL::

we also know that the Greeks stole all they claim to have invented and discovered from Africa/Egypt.  but few say so.  the white man invented Greece as his source for he would not have the provenance he wanted otherwise.

its all a fake like Hansen a white man.  according to the official history they are all white.  but that is far from the truth

click on any of the picture links

https://www.google.ca/search?q=images+of...mSaqLxiMAG

here the NOI establishes that John Hansen was not a black man...that the story of the first black president is a fake, gossip..that John Hansen was indeed white and very anti black and anti native american

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/...8485.shtml

Quote:Yet more confusion has been created by the existence of a photograph that clearly shows a man named John Hanson, and there is no doubt that he is a Black man. Our Liberian brother is the one in the photo, bespectacled, dignified, and of serious bearing. And there is one small technical issue that disqualifies him from being the first president: photography was invented around 1822, long after the 1783 death of the Caucasian Hanson and 23 years after George Washington took his last breath.

So we now must put to rest this worn-out urban legend, and those of us who have erroneously taught it must strive to find better and historically accurate ways to illustrate Black people’s leadership qualities. The Caucasian John Hanson was an avowed enemy of Black and Indian freedom, justice, and equality. And we should be careful not to insert a Black man into leadership over one of the bloodiest chapters in the history of our people. Our Black heroes fought mightily, valiantly, and too often futilely against everything that John Hanson stood for—good White supremacist that he was. Slave rebellion leaders Nat Turner, Denmark Vesey, Gabriel Prosser all qualify as true freedom fighters worthy of our abiding honor and respect. And today there is no one more deserving of the title “hero” than The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. And though they don’t provide comfortable thoughts and memories for White people, soon they will be seen as our true Founding Fathers. Let the White John Hanson remain White. He would have wanted it that way.

The Urban myth.  or truthful story ::confused::

https://www.facebook.com/notes/sherrie-v...777505417/

Quote:John Hanson, to many a regular "white man", to those of us who know the truth John Hanson was indeed a black man. But not just any ol' cotton picking negro. John Hanson was the first president of the United States under the Articles of Confederation.

The Country was formed on March 1, 1781. The Articles was actually propsed on June 11, 1776, and not agreed upon until Nov. 15, 1777. Immediately after the Articles was signed in 1781 there was a imperative need for a President. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress that even included George Washington O.O. IN FACT!!! All others was afraid to run against him since he played a major role in the revolution and was very influential towards the Congress.

John Hanson took office just at the end of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR!!! How come we heard about that in Social Studies and not John Hanson (the real John Hanson)??? The troops threaten to overthrow the presidency and appoint GEORGE WASHINGTON if they had not been paid for their services. Which during those times was more unlikely because wars created great debt.

ALL MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS WERE SCARED AND RAN, leaving John Hanson to run the government himself. Some how he was able to calm down the troops and sent 800 lbs of silver through his brother to GEORGE WASHINGTON to provide the troops with shoes.

Hanson established the GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES  which all presidents are required to use on all official documents. He is even the DECLARATOR of THANKSGIVING and declared that its celebrated every 4th Thursday of November like it is today.

Under the Articles of Confedartion, presidents were only allowed to stay in term for one year so actually this FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT accomplished alot!

The names of the other 6 presidents before George Washington are: Elais Boudinot (1783), Thomas Muffin (1784) Richard Lee Henry (1785) Nathan Gorman (1786) Arthur St. Clair (1787) and Cyrus Griffin (1788)...all under the Articles of Confederation. George Washington was the first president UNDER THE CONSTITUTION!!! And 8th by fact!

Egmond Codfried

Quote:Hanson is one of the most enigmatic figures in US history. He is frequently mentioned in connection with the claim that he was the first President, but fewer facts are clear about his life and accomplishments than is the case with most of his contemporaries. One of the difficulties .this caused was that several writers in the 19th century filled in the blanks with fiction. This article presents only those aspects of the man af1d his character that are either dearly documented or almost universally agreed upon. For various reasons, Hanson has been the subject of a large number of misconceptions or misrepresentations
The origin of the claim that Hanson is the "forgotten" first President stems from a 1932 book by Seymour Wemyss Smith titled John Hanson - Our First President. Nevertheless, officially Hanson was the third presiding officer of the Congress of the United States, and he considered himself a successor to the first two men to hold the office, Samuel Huntington and Thomas McKean, who themselves were successors to prior Presidents of the Second Continental Congress. Nor was the office an executive position like the office

* Anyone with more info please share

to be honest what I find is that there is great doubt about what Hansen was in terms of ethnicity..no less among the whites than among africanus experts and commentators.

some whites call him Sweedish, some call him English, Scottish....

the black person always photgraphed next to Hansen is a much later African figure and not a representation of Hansen as a Black man

Quote:This is so weird.

Usually people claim others to have "African dna" (no such thing) in order to bolster a sense of pride. Maps is the only black nationalist I know who says that powerful historical white figures are actually, secretly, evil black people!

that is sarcastic simpleton stuff isnt TD ::confused::

what about claiming something simply as historical fact go expose it, encourage further clarification to advance truth and clarity about the reality with which we deal..all the better to decide as effectively as we go based on truth.

I checked my intent pointing to famous 'white' american people who by american definition are black and I find nothing of what you imply in it

I say all people are black, from an african source.  if all are black originally what the hell does a few mongrels mean when it comes to pride, evil and all that sort of thing ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

as a matter of fact if all people are african then mongrel is a moot term.

what I was more concerned about relative to the black presidents, is as a reviled group, in whom even a suspected drop of black blood was cause for lynching.... how did they emerge in roles of great social power ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

it was Karl Marx I believe who pointed out that a system in power does not hesitate to use the power at hand that advances it regardless of whom that power resides in.

ahh!  there we go..an insight that advances.  studded in dominant white society we see highly placed blacks throughout the emergence history of white power in the world.  how and why man ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::  how does society function to permit such ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

we see this same phenomena everywhere, at all periods in every domination, highly placed members of reviled and exploited groups in structure of their own domination by a conquering group....even as their own are lynched, incarcerated, totally brutally exploited there are those in the power structure of exploitation who are form the reviled group. 

don't you think we need some explanation for that Trinidaddy ::confused:: ::confused::

also in ridiculing the idea of famous white people with feet of black..or black feet..you denigrate the world of scholars who have been termed historically great

and this question of evil white people...or evil per se' relates to the fairness I asked in relation to Timmy post..to define fainess.  well what the hell is this evil then that I hold white people to be ::confused:: ::confused::

I do not think in terms of the principles of good and bad, or good and evil ensconced in white western society as defined by white western religions.  I do not see that as historically and currently determinative in our behavior, only relevant as evolved  tools of exploitation.  what humans do cannot be reduced to good and evil as explanatory of anything.

what we call the criminal behavior of white people is really generic of humanity as a whole, but as product of the natural insecure conditions of our birth/evolution, not given by any god whose boy sons we killed and who rose from the dead to come again in judgement.

those stories that underpin our conception of 'good and evil' are illogical because they evolved not in relation to actual human life but stories associated with explanation of the movements of the bodies in our lunar at first and then solar system.  it is called astronomy that we very early built a whole astrology around, called the zodiac by the greeks, but was way older than anything they ever imagined.

then some of those stories were literalized into the basis of the religions we now have called world religions we are compelled to believe.  but literally those stories are stupid and cannot stant up to obvious logic.  so we are asked to trust and believe, to live by faith and not by sight in order for them to have effect. 

but the stories are illogical not because they are rooted in any unfathomable wisdom of any god whose truth will be revealed in time.  they are illogical because they are not about what we have made into at all at all.

human destructive behavior is out of and rooted in the conditions in which we are born and evolved.  we are born totally insecure, weaker than and eaten by all forms of life stronger than us.  and in the beginning almost all forms were stronger than we are.  it is the horror of that reality that shaped humanity into what we are now..existential experience shaped humanity, are responsible for us, nature and nature alone.  hunger, the terror of insecure life, jungle life.  we were no better than any other life form

environmental conditions have worked so far in favor of human survival that is why we are still here.  and now that we know we may have a chance to solidify our existence by the development of knowledge of our universe and the skills and techniques that can protect us from environmental change as we go..while extending out life expectancy  to unheard of limits.

only as by knowledge and skill applied to make our natural conditions better have we come up out of the jungle into what we have no and can see our way clear to better if we can overcome the last vestige of, the last challenge of immature contradictory social relations, to come to grips with our truth and give ourselves our best chance to go forward indefinitely in evolutionary universal existence...

that is an idea of where I am coming from at this point.....

all this limited stuff here I have no truck with

and remember Mail..the holocaust I have to deal with is not some possible 6 million killed during a five year period but an on-going holocaust as we speak... for more than 500 years now in which the lives of hundreds of millions have been lost

[size=14pt]AND REMEMBER THE '' SECRET RELATIONSHIP BETWEN BLACKS AND JEWS'' IN WHICH THE JEWS HAVE BEEN PROVED TO HAVE BEEN AND ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE HORRORS THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED IN THIS WORLD SINCE THE END OF THE 15 C.[/size]

So if you will not tolerate me me even suspected consistently with the opinion of David Irving..what will you do in relation to the Jews for their huge and on-going crimes against black people, proven beyond a doubt.

will you stop dealing with Jews now, speaking to them, relating to them for these crimes about which there is no doubt, researched by, outlined and fleshed out by Jewish scholars themselves...in addition to what the records themselves state

and we have had the Jewish crime against Palestine for what 65 years now and counting.....

and what about Jewish crime against the Falasha Jews from Ethiopia..who are real Jews as opposed to the dominant Ashkanaze. Israeli Jews are eliminating those people as we speak, forcing the women to take sterilizing drugs hat render them unable to reproduce...

and there is a whole lot more of what we call evil done by the Jews all recorded...like the horric eugenic program carried out by Ashkanaze on Palestinian and Sephardic Jewish children in Israel,  at the start of the Israeli state  in 1948 .

and that aint all.. far, far, far from all that is awful about Jews.

but the answer is simple Mail.  development must spread to all people of the world.  only material security on a universalist ideology can save humanity at this point, continue human evolution in a proper manner and go a long way towards guaranteeing human survival into any see able future.

we have that universalist ideology already.  it is called Socialism, or real democracy.  that is the answer.  ordinary humanity must revolutionize society establish democracy and so save humanity fro itself by ending exploitative divided society  that produces the worst in human behavior and global inequality.  it is that or human extinction plain and simple

just watch!

Maps just don't get it: revolusion DEAD AS DODO!    ::dead:: Dead in Kuba, dead in 'Zuela.  Maps stlil wearin' ol' moth-eaten Che beret  :...while Stanfer picked hiz pocket!  ;D