China and Russia prepare for a hot war with Eurangloland. Who Feeling Lucky?

mapoui · 05-20-2016, 08:43 PM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
http://thesaker.is/china-and-russia-prep...angloland/


Quote:From 1945-1978, the United States and its global client countries were ascendant against revolutionary China, where the communist government was spending its money and resources to dramatically improve the living standards of one-fourth the world’s people. But then, starting in the Eighties, the People’s Republic began its grand and history changing entrance onto the world stage.

The Soviet Union was equal to the West’s threats, 1945-1990, and humanity survived, thanks to a lot of luck and MAD. Then for a brief decade, 1990-2000, the West was ascendant to a bankrupted, boundary torn Russia. Now in the new century, like China, Russia has roared back to the world’s economic and geopolitical table.

In the meantime, since the Vietnam War, Eurangloland began and continues to show all the signs of a fading, overextended, corrupt empire. History tells us that empires, if they don’t implode quickly (like the Western Roman Empire, in 476AD) and thus not having the time to react, often resort to war with its enemies, to stave off their inevitable demise (like the Eastern Byzantine Roman Empire, in 1453 – a thousand years later).

So, in another sense, everything explained above can be downright depressing, as history and the trend line suggest that a hot war between the West and the Anti-West may be unstoppable. The Romans did not have thousands of nuclear warheads. Today the West, Russia and China do.

With war criminal Hillary Clinton in the White House, the vortex towards mutual annihilation becomes that much more plausible. If Donald Trump makes it into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, who knows? In either case, like the 20th century version of MAD, let’s hope this century’s Act II is blessed with unbelievable luck.

#2
Well whatever they do let's hope it doesn't involve lovely bubbly nukes...and pray the battle isn't fought righ over your head.

This silent political dispute will end badly, that much has been established. It's really annoying how the average 'Joe' is called to deal with problems like these. If they want to have a fight they can do it on the moon, or better yet on Mars, and broadcast it back to earth via satellite TV and charge you 1.99$ per week of view.

#3
Quote: It's really annoying how the average 'Joe' is called to deal with problems like these

that is why Joe collective mus' get up now and put an end to it.  Joe collective can then deport them to the moon and let them fight there. 

and deh cyan keep deh TV @ 1.99.  we doh want it even fuh free ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

#4
Direct efforts at the USA:

force them to break up a la USSR.

#5
Trump will fix this, rite?

#6
Wow, the writer of this article really has been screaming at the top of his voice about western influence and how Sino-Chinese relations are ensuring a balance of power. But, I disagree. He says the US he left and the US he re-discovered after decades of foreign travel, were two different countries. That the US is now more rundown than before and so on http://thesaker.is/saker-interview-with-jeff-j-brown/

My problem with guys like this is one of basic values. He grew up in the west, the west gave him everything, and even then he now speaks so highly of countries that are clearly not friendly. Does he not owe anything to the land that gave him so much? Anyways, his content is factually correct in most respects. There is a propaganda war against Russia and China.

As one US Navy Admiral said a few days ago, "US naval ships have pretty much traveled unchallenged across waters for a good part of the last century and will continue to do so." However,  that's not been the reality for quite a while now. The whole dispute with Iran or China or even Russia is one of controlling the high seas.

What happens if China controls the pacific naval corridors? The American economy will collapse. The US is a man-made economy created by blood sweat and tears. North America is basically in the middle of nowhere and needs those sea lanes open. So its a matter of survival for the US, not Russia or China. And the war will not be initiated by China or Russia, even though we will likely be told that they were the ones who "started" it.

The good news is that this is already being fixed. A non-nuclear, more friendly Iran, is the solution that prevents war and makes Jeff Brown's points worthless. The way to fix this is simply to talk and accept this new global order, instead of inciting direct or indirect conflicts. For example, Iran does not deal with the US and the world's oldest trade route was closed for the US. But, now US and India have a logistics agreement in place. And Iran has recently allowed India to develop its Chabahar port.

Indirectly, the sea lanes are now freely open for the US in a region where they weren't welcome even until a month ago. People don't realize that that trade route had been closed for over 600 years, and it is what forced Europeans to seek out alternative sea routes in the first place. Once it opens up, even if China gains further control, there will always been a trade route open via Asia->Europe->US. No wars needed.

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