Fuh SCA and Ramesh: Rhodes Must Fall!

mapoui · 12-02-2015, 01:03 AM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/01/r...education/


Quote:Last week, in Oxford, a demonstration of around 200 students were also demanding that Britain ‘move on’ from its colonial past – not by forgetting about it, but precisely the opposite – by acknowledging the damage done (and still being done) and atoning for it. The Rhodes Must Fall movement began in South Africa last year, demanding an end to the veneration of colonial murderers like Cecil Rhodes, but has since spread to Oxford, where Rhodes’ alma mater, Oriel College, still displays a huge statue in his honour. Rhodes’ statue at Cape Town University was eventually removed this year after protests, and the Oxford campaign hopes to repeat the success here. Cecil Rhodes was the archetypal British imperialist – a tyrannical stealer of land, ruthless exploiter of labour and rabid butcher of men, women and children. By the 1890s, he had conquered around one million square miles of territory (including modern day Malawi, Zimbabwe and Zambia) and laid waste to its inhabitants, using the newly invented Maxim gun to massacre all those who stood in his way and forcing many of the rest into the living graves that were his company’s diamond mines. As Prime Minister of Britain’s Cape Colony, his policies laid the basis for what became the apartheid system, as he forced Africans onto reserves, introduced segregation and forced labour, and systematically excluded Africans from voting, explaining to the Cape Assembly in 1887 that “the native is to be treated as a child and denied the franchise. We must adopt a system of despotism in our relations with the barbarians of South Africa.” What exactly this meant was spelt out in one of his more prosaic pronouncements: “one should kill as many niggers as possible”. The question is not so much why there is a campaign to have his statue removed as why on earth it is still there. It says a lot about just how little Britain has ‘moved on’ from its imperial past when the leader of the Zimbabwean liberation struggle, Robert Mugabe, is one of the most demonised figures in the British media – whilst the architect of that country’s subjugation, Cecil Rhodes, remains a ubiquitous and venerated presence in Britain’s most hallowed academic institution.

#2
Quote:But the campaign is about much more than statues; as the press release for the event noted, “Our call for the statue to fall is but the first step. What we stand for is something much greater: the transformation of the university in its physical and intellectual spaces, its colleges and its curricula.” Indeed, Rhodes Must Fall is part of a much broader global movement that has emerged in recent years, based around the demand to decolonize academia.

As Maori anthropologist and activist Linda Tuhiwai Smith has put it, “decolonisation, once viewed as the formal process of handing over the instruments of government, is now recognised as a long term process involving the bureaucratic, cultural, linguistic and psychological divesting of colonial power”. Western academia is in particular and urgent need of such a decolonizing process as it so clearly continues to reproduce Eurocentric fallacies and omissions in manifold ways.

#3
ramesh loves the Queen and SCA is firmly wrapped in an American jhandi Flag

#4
Maps...the man is long gone...this is a different era. If his wealth can go to better the lives of others then take it as a goodwill and be happy for the beneficiaries. You need to stop the hate my fren. It stops with us.

#5
[quote author=SCA link=topic=101647.msg666958#msg666958 date=1449091011]
Maps...the man is long gone...this is a different era. If his wealth can go to better the lives of others then take it as a goodwill and be happy for the beneficiaries. You need to stop the hate my fren. It stops with us.
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dont be so simple-minded SC.  that way you give ketchim ammunition to beat up pon you.  Rhodes was a huge businessman who established his business in his own image and likeness with the same purpose as described in the article.  his businesses and foundation functions the same way

which is why I have been circumspect with Mz Gomes.  she went through a selection process and you know what that was for..to determine if she was a suitable 'person' for Rhodes money to be invested in.  and mark my word..INVESTED! for that is what that foundation does... invest in the students. if the students think deh get that money fuh free deh make a mistake

the Rhodes Foundation is not going to pick just any student no matter how brilliant they are. Brilliance is not the point.  allegiance to the system is the point. that is suitability!

and as Mz Gomes was selected I can imagine exactly what her outlook on life is.  like Bill Clinton she would have to be a systems person from the start, totally so, or she would not have been selected.  try imagine what she would be like as prime minister of Trinidad one day?

as such would she be looking out for Trinidad business, or minding the business of Rhodes enterprises such as it is currently, as PM of Trinidad ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

you behave like an innocent SCA.  sure Cecil is dead and gone but beware of what he left behind, come bearing gifts today.  it always pays to look a gift horse in the mouth. the gif' might not be a gif' at all but an investment

as I said if you want to develop your nation and your people as citizens then make a proper nation that pays for its people.  if you constantly doing your stuff on other peoples coin you will always be a dolt, and a controlled one at that

#6
Bill Clinton as a Rhodes scholar is the perfect example of what I speak.  Bill Clinton is one of the worst human beings who ever lived.  the records are there to prove it

the only half decent Rhodes scholar I ever knew is William 'Bill' Bradley the former Knicks basketball player who became a democrat and ran for president but did not win the nomination.  Bradley had a decent outlook, some decent policies and was thought of as a progressive

never before, nor after have I seen a Rhodes scholar thought of as progressive

they are all Rhodes clones because the selection process for the scholarships ensures that they are.  what else did you, or can you expect ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

#7
[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Students have tossed excrement on a campus statue of the British colonialist Cecil John Rhodes at the University of Cape Town in [/color][color=rgb(0, 86, 137)][/size]South Africa[/color][color=rgb(51, 51, 51)][/size], calling the monument a tribute to the white domination of the past. Demonstrators have demanded removal of the statue and organized a “Rhodes must fall” campaign on social media.[/color]

#8
Quote:Bill Clinton as a Rhodes scholar is the perfect example of what I speak.  Bill Clinton is one of the worst human beings who ever lived.  the records are there to prove it

Maps, do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone?    :-\

Bill Clinton was one of the best and brightest US president in modern times.  Under his administration more jobs were created than any other, surplus was created, regarded as the first "black" president cause he did so much for the blacks in America.

He is now on a mission to help the poor across the world.


What the fact have YOU DONE???? (besides talking CRAP!!)


#9
Quote:What the fact have YOU DONE???? (besides talking CRAP!!)


what I have done includes pointing out the evil of such as Bill Clinton.  it is people like you with your appeal above to emotion who make so much trouble for human beings.

look here..just one fact of Clinton's presidency puts your emotional appeal you trying to pass off as common sense into its true and idiotic and misleading perspective... and it s called Glass Steagall.

the repeal of Glass Stegall that prevented the banks from gambling the entire economies of nations was removed and presto the banks rubbished all western economies into the current global financial crisis.

then under Obama the banks have stolen the peoples money all the way into the next 4 generations to pay off their looses and to stay afloat today rather than going bankrupt as they are.  currently we are all under austerity as the banks/governments impose severe cuts of the social safety net to squeeze surpluses from truncated economies to pay interest on the incomprehensible debt we owe by corruption and trickery to the banks.

that alone googles..among so much more puts Bill Clinton into a catergory of pure evil itself.  I don't know what the hell reality you are looking at to come up with that rosy impression of Clinton. 

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I SEE YOU AS GOOGLES..A TOTAL AND PERFECT ENEMY OF HUMANITY ITSELF, OF SOCIETY WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE FOOLISHNESS, SOCIAL, HISTORICAL BLINDNESS TO REALITY.  YOU AS A WEST INDIAN IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND, SO RIDICULOUS YOU ARE WHEN IT COMES TO REALITY, TRUTH OF LIFE

if Bill Clinton heard you say what you have of him above, he would pat your on your head for behavior he would take as typical of the black races  which is why they are worthy of their manipulation and contempt. 'they are so stupid they can never ever even be good for their own selves...incapable of acting in their own best interest.  if people are not naturally subjective what good are they for anything. they are babies really, still in a stage of backwardness of the under developed'[/i]

that is what bill would think of and say of you and treat you accordingly..as a pet dog, capable only of unearned loyalty to its master.

Bill Clinton is known in informed circles in the USA..indeed anywhere ..as an awful human being, with no civilized or sophisticated  behavior at all.  its all show what we see of him in the media and what you use to conclude on him.  look at Bill Clinton's behavior with women.  that is gluttony and totally opposed to christian values yet he got away with it as president of the very christian USA with his banshee, supposedly cuckholded wife in total support. 

but Gluttony is what the Clinton's have been from day one to now.  take a good look at them..brutal,  murderous, and absolutely greedy.{ the general unofficial knowledge is that while Bill was effing or porking ..as they say in the USA ...chicks by the dozen, Hillary was doing the same thing behind the scenes } Gluttony..gluttons

with all the power of the american presidency Bill Clinton was my enemy, just as George Bush was and Barack Obama is today. 

Bwoy you stun me. you live in the middle of a growing police state where even Habeus Corpus has been removed yet yu behave as if the american world you live in is fine. you apparently like it so but look at the general suffering around you! get into trouble in america and see now the citizen literally has no chance at.  there is no more due process in america.  all rights have been taken away.  Obama can kill anyone he wants anytime of night or day. Obama does not need court orders, nor is he compelled to build cases before the judiciary to do any dam thing he wants to do.

you see the police killing freely in amrica and walking away scott free from their crimes.  all of this from Clinton's presidency.  Clinton is the one who began jail for profit and 3 strikes you are out..jail for life..and the destruction of the black community by jail....an on and on and on!

GOOGLES YOU ARE THE MOST INCREDIBLE INDIVIDUAL POSTING ON THIS BOARD HERE FOR YOU IMMERSION IN ALL THAT IS EVIL IN SOCIETY.  I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN A GREATER HATER OF BLACK PEOPLE THAN YOU ARE.  I HAVE MET..RATHER SEE.. INDIAN PEOPLE HERE IN CANADA AND IN TRINIDAD..STREET PEOPLE, LUNATIC PEOPLE LOUDLY RAVING AND RANTING ON THE STREETS, IN AND AT SUBWAY STATIONS... STREAMING NASTY HATEFUL INVECTIVE AT BLACK PEOPLE

I BET YOU WOULD NEVER ADMIT THAT ::confused::

I ADMIT OF ONE EXAMPLE I KNOW OF THAT, WITH A BLACK PERSON..IN THE USA..WHO RAVED ON THE STREETS ABOUT INDO'S AND HOW THEY HAD COME TO AMERICA AND SIDED WITH THE WHITE MAN AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAD PAID THEIR DUES FOR 500 YEARS UNDER THE WHIP OF THE WHITE MAN.

if I remember what I read accurately the cops shot him to death

those people are at least obviously crazy but not you googs.  you are sane enough, upright, well fed, ok! there is no excuse for you.  you are purpose, hateful and ridiculous.  you are totally opposed to good sense, to truth and a positive outcome for humanity.  you are in support of the worse possible human beings it has been our misfortune to produce..Obama, Clinton and so on.

{ AND YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS MAN..A PANDIT, A PRIEST IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE.  ANOTHER REASON FOR MY TOTAL CONTEMPT FOR RELIGION.  RELIGION..YOU ARE NO GOOD ADVERTISMENT FOR RELIGION }

Clinton bright my arse...one of the brightest :o :o :o :o  just take a look at Clinton's wife Hillary.  what progressive bright man marries a woman like that, like she ::confused:: ::confused:: 

Hillary Clinton is a barbarous monster, a satanic banshee.  and her  husband  Bill is a backward monster who would have fitted squarely into the world of Cecil Rhodes... prolly as his chief executive officer

Hillary Clinton Murdered a man, Muammar Gaddafi... in the most cold blooded and horrid and horrendous public way imaginable.  did you see that ::confused:: she put it on the screens of all the world to see..the incredible horrendous torture of a human being then his public execution.  then she cackled in the public  "we came, We saw, He died"  and our best and brightest Bill Clinton is married to that animal..and you call him best and brightest! incredible

look this cant be true..what Googles said above.  he cant be that ridiculous..and I have gone on and on for no good reason.  allyuh tell mih if what I see is real ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::


#10
go look at my thread about our new Rhodes scholar.  see who I put up as great people......

try Wallace Thornhill..as magnificent a human being in the positive as Clinton is in the opposite

and there are many more postive human beings.  I will make a list for you..for whatever good it may do for a devil like you

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