Hol' Orn! Waith Just a Minute: Something !sn't Right Here Up in This!!

mapoui · 11-21-2015, 11:42 AM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
it seems to me that ISIS took it upon themselves to get themselves into this position by bombing the Russian plane then attacking France..all in the open, claiming responsibility. how in the hell did all of that help their cause ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

it put them straight into the Russian cross hairs of escalation that is beating them to hell on the ground.  it seems clear that while there is question as to who did France, there is no doubt as to who did the Russian plane in Egypt.  and if they did/do harm to  Russians Putin will hunt them to hell in revenge, till no man responsible remains standing.

there seems to be a frame-up somewhere in between these pages.  someone wants Daesh Takfiri to get to their virgins quick sharp.

#2
here is a likely ansah......save the author wont give his name.

Quote:What is Daesh’s endgoal?
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by Non-Zionist Anglo Observer

The Saker’s excellent analysis on the position in Syria ‘after Paris’ poses several possibilities as to why Daesh appears to have a death wish, but frankly confesses to finding none of them satisfactory.

Under such circumstances, it is usually the best policy to eschew inherently unprovable conspiracy theories  (particularly since unrealistic ones do us all a grave disservice by potentially leading people to reject our points about the actually barely concealed and very real ‘conspiracy’ of the Anglo-Zionists and their allies to use Wahhabi terrorists as a weapon of foreign policy).

Better, I would suggest, to reach for the simple razor this predictive text stubbornly refuses me to allow to name!

Because Daesh told us what their game is (at least as far as their fighters and middle managers believe) when they called their online magazine ‘Dabiq’. It’s exactly as if a group of Christian End Time  heretics named their propaganda organ ‘Armageddon’.

The thing to understand is surely that we are not dealing with rational, materialistic human beings, but with Islamist millennialist lunatics

In this, they are not so dissimilar to the Jewish ones trying to breed the pure red heifer to sacrifice at the rebuilt Temple in order to summon the long-awaited Messiah, or the Dispensationalist/Rapture Christians who rather fancy Armageddon and being part of the select band getting physically lifted to Heaven.

The precise details of their End Times fantasies/heresies differ, but the mentality is the same.

The town of Dabiq, north of Aleppo is the venue for a prophesied Last Battle at which a vast Crusader army  – made up from soldiers from 80 nations – having beaten the forces of the Muslims, will be defeated by the last 10,000 survivors.

At which point Jesus appears, declares Himself a Muslim, breaks a big cross, kills all the pigs and leads the conquest of Constantinople and then Rome.

One other factor needs to be borne in mind: A related prophesy says that all this will only happen after a brief alliance between the ‘Romans’ (read NATO) and the Muslims against the Shia and a power taken to be Russia.

With this in mind, the frantic efforts of Daesh to attack everyone possible and draw down the wrath of the world on a patch of desert in northern Syria is not strategically inept at all.

It would only be inept if they wanted to live and to beat their enemies in a conventional war of physical and territorial liberation. They do not.

They want to lure Russia/Iran AND the USA and 79 allies into a ground war, with the reasonable expectation that either an accident in the crowded airspace, or their fellow End Time lunatics in Washington (hello, Mr McCain), will spark a fighting war between their two enemy blocs.

And they also look forward to seeing their own ranks reduced to 10,000 as the final prerequisite for the Last Battle at Dabiq. Every Russian bomb brings them nearer to that goal, but American, French, British etc are all welcome to the Last Party.

The only ‘mystery’ here is not the aim of Daesh, but how intelligent people (which many of them are, as The Saker notes, they are tactically extremely adept) can believe such superstitious nonsense?

To ask such a question demands obliviousness to the superstitions of the materialistic West, for we – and not just Senator McCain – have plenty of them, no less absurd.

All this is NOT automatically to discount the possibility that Daesh’s top leadership are ‘simply obeying orders’ in order to break up Arab states on behalf of Eretz Israel or American oil companies, but it is a fact-based alternative explanation for their behaviour, and it surely helps explain the stubborn courage of their “poor (and very) bloody infantry”.

#3
Isn't Washington responsible for the plane

#4
that Last Crusade is believeable !

but like the movie 300 : it is a bit of a stretch  :-[

#5
Saw someone make the argument that in a way they can use any anti-ISIS attacks to fuel more outrage and convert more people to their cause. They're not dumb, and they know that it is simply not allowed in many corners to criticize Islam, to criticize Muslims, and in fact the aftermath of the Paris attacks demonstrates this, as many are bending over backwards to defend Islam in general.

#6
I would not defend Islam...I would and do criticize Islam and all religion relentlessly.  they are all lies, nonsense, require humans to live by faith and not by sight and we end up crazy, believing fanatically in utter jackassness and at each others throats.  religion promotes human division, racism, exploitation of man by man, class and gender separation, justifies war.

religion is anti democratic, promoting a feudal court as the legality and state of being of heaven, with god the king at the top. heaven is not a democracy and god is capable of and free to do as he pleases.

on earth religion is the implacable enemy of human progress and democracy, tolerates no advancement unless it is in line with religious doctrine. all that is not in line with religious doctrine is prohibited on pain of death to those who believe. religion has been anti female for 2 thousand years, the social leader of the suppression of women.  only over the last 100 years or so have we had any ease on the lack of democracy for women. there is no in the Muslim world which is a gender dictatorship

religion has ruined human sexuality all the better to control people.  there is human sexual deviation and psychosis the world over and proliferating pornography at a price as the salve and resolution.  and he churches themselves are the homes and seats of sexual dysfunction. it is in the churches themselves where sexual deviation and totally depraved practices are kept safe from examination, aeration and possibly cure by seeing and recognizing that the church/religion, its doctrine themselves are the problem and that we kill them all in order to be sane, to cure our social divisions, develop a democracy and so give ourselves opportunity to go on in evolutionary existence..in which religion is actually totally irrelevant

I will not defend Islam..nor will I defend christianity and Judaism..the triple sides of the ten mile high walls now closing in around humanity.  eradicate them all along with the social structures that depend on them, replace them with a real direct democracy and we would be on our way to peace and prosperity and a real chance in the universe

if there is a god we will find it by sight and not by faith.  faith is illogical, a jackass, insane thing. piss on the concept of faith, an irrelevance in life.  on all the religions too. and when the revolution comes the priests, Imam, Pandits, Reverends, Monks etc.,  all ah dem better pray it does not fall to such as me to deal with them

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