West Indies cricket declined due to loss of nationalism

Think of West Indian cricket and several images flood the mind; of free-spirited batsmen who tore into the bowling with strokes of power, of menacing fast bowlers who blew away line-ups and a bunch of players who entertained …and still won.

It was not about money. It was a lot about pride, a precious attribute that separated a cricketer from a mercenary.

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Its because Indian tracks are flat tracks and not a bowler will be self motivated to bowl at 150 +, ,even a 140 +will suffice

When we have rank turners,how can we produce fast bowlers ??
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Lemme share this from the Shoaib Akhtar thread

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Think of West Indian cricket and several images flood the mind; of free-spirited batsmen who tore into the bowling with strokes of power, of menacing fast bowlers who blew away line-ups and a bunch of players who entertained …and still won.
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Yep , but the world has caught up and they are now BOWLING to us at close 100 mph.

AND we cant Play to that cause outside of our DEAD pitches !

Our current crop has to play on Fast , Bouncy Tracks : in NZ and Oz and SA !

England overcast is a bummer.

We stand a chance on sub continent 22 yards 

The buck stops at the Board and its leadership. It is my considered view that Clive Lloyd should have been made President of the WICB or Director of Cricket of the WICB where his experience, expertise and vast influence could have been better utilised, rather than as Chairman of Selectors where he could only select from what the pool produces.

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The buck stops at the Board and its leadership..
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Dunno man : Richard Pybus our Director is also a certified Coach with International contacts :

AND he has some good ideas ! but the implemantation will take time from The Grassroots.

BUT no one has been able to get our regional contest to include Ireland , say !

The pool has showcased that there is REAL talent.

even the U15 and u19 squads  has shown : 4 Players have been earmarked for a Camp !

We need to get some kinda arrangement to play in England or OZ.

some kinda arrangement.....dunno who will take us so we can turn arung and Beat de crap outta them.

England toss in Kolpak to stop this

Mr Cameron and those who support him care not for WI Cricket. No amount of money they have received seems enough and for them cricket development is to “talk about” but not “execute” particularly since, according to Cameron, the cricket belongs to them and they cannot be moved.

Quote:It was not about money. It was a lot about pride, a precious attribute that separated a cricketer from a mercenary.

there are no cricket mercenaries.  that is more wicb propaganda crap to attack wipa and the players that some posters here run with.  the players find jobs to play cricket forgood money that set them up in good security in their lives..money they cant get from the wicb for the cricket they play for the west indies.


there are 2 things allyuh must consider.....

#1  how much do wicb executives make and how does that compare to what the players are paid?

#1 the wicb makes money off the mercenaries for free. FOR THE VERY SAME COMPETITIONS FOR WHICH THE PLAYERS ARE CALLED MERCENARIES

if our players are mercenaries to be disparaged, and disrespected why is the wicb making money hand over fist for every T20 contract a west indian player gets ::confused::

I find so many ordinary people are taken by the propaganda nonsense that flows from the top down. it is as if Pollard and Bravo, Russell and Gayle are criminals and devilish people for making a goddam living..called mercenaries

and no one will call SKUNTSKAMERON WHAT HE IS..A ROTTEN, CRIMINAL DESTRUCTIVE NASTY MINDED ELITE..OR THE WICB SAME WAY FOR THE ABSOLUTE ROTTEN SCORCHED EARTH PARASITE THAT IT IS..AND DESTROYER OF WEST INDIES CRICKET.

BUT THEY WILL CALL THE PLAYERS MERCENARIES..PLAYERS WHO HAVE NO DECISIVE POWER IN THE CRICKET, DO NOT MAKE AND EFFECT CRICKET POLICY, SET UP NOTHING, RIP OFF NOTHING ONLY FORMED A UNION TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM THE VERY SAME WICB THAT HAS  NOW INFILTRATED THE WIPA AND IS DESTROYING IT FROM INSIDE OUT AND OUTSIDE IN..RENDERING IT USELESS TO THE PLAYERS.

and while they were dong this they forgot to qualify for the champions which would have been a great opportunity to make some money for the wicb and the players too.

Bang and Pak did the right thing for themselves by cancelling the tri series in Zim.  they have already qualified..why give west indies an opportunity to dislodge either one of them.  it made no sense for them.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SO UNFAIR AND TOTALLY SELF DESTRUCTIVE AS THE ATTACK ON WEST INDIAN PLAYERS BY THE WICB,  AND THE PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE WICB  NONSENSE..THE SAME WICB THAT HAS DESTROYED WEST INDIES CRICKET TOTALLY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

AS AR AS I SEE IF WEST INDIANS CAN TOLERATE AND SUPPORT THE WICB AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PLAYERS THEY DESERVE THE CRICKET THEY GET..AND THE CRICKET THEY HAVE NOW

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there are no cricket mercenaries.  that is more wicb propaganda crap to attack wipa and the players
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what came first ? the Chicken or the Egg ??  :-\

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if our players are mercenaries to be disparaged, and disrespected why is the wicb making money hand over fist
for every T20 contract a west indian player gets ::confused::
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All countries : 10% to the respctive Board.