[quote author=mapoui link=topic=97707.msg638098#msg638098 date=1432134072]
here is the introduction of a different line, that does not contradict anything I said. the decline of the PP after 23 years is power led to a close election and defeat..that is my case.
if there is american involvement in the outcome of a close election you affirm that so you have to prove it. you may be right. why ::confused::
the Exxon oil discovery, coming just outside attack on Venezuela that clearly was calculated to set the deck for invasion, was blunted by global negative reaction. America could be off on a different tact using Guyana and supposed oil discovery as means to attack Venezuela by a different name.
so I began arguing that Guyana should try to clear up the land dispute with Maduro and Chavistas because if the right gets back in they most likely will solve that problem their way to the disadvantage of Guyana...noting that if it is the Venezuela right wing in charge the Americans will look the other way of they moved into Guyana.
on that I argued that that Exon oil discovery thing must be some gambit in the mix to attack Venezuela using BG...as Ramotar began what looked suspiciously like building an antagonism with Venezuela. but how could he when he does not even have a pesticide spraying plane and Venezuela have an air force of modern jets ::confused:: ::confused::
so it is Obvious what was happening..that the americans were 'spouncing' up and backing Guyana to raise a regional issue the end of which would be more pressure and even attack on Venezuela..and it was clear that Ramotar was an eager player
that is what I was arguing before the election. the only way the Americans would have tilted that election against Ramotar, would be if they have a firm commitment of far-reaching extent with Granger to go against Venezuela..and that Ramotar refused to go to that extent. so Obama tossed him.
that I doubt! I saw Ramotar go twice to the white house and that is ridiculous for a small impse country like BG, if something very important was not at stake. and that could only have been Chavista Venezuela and a role for BG in its destruction. and that Ramotar was a full player..as clear as day. so what reason would the Americans have had for tossing him ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::
that is my take on it snoops. if you have proof of what you claim by all means feel free.....
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The PPP uncovered evidence of rigging and tampered voting in 22 ballots alone. This was acknowledged by GECOM. In such a close general election why did the Americans declare the process as "free and fair" a day after May 11th? They maintained this even after GECOM acknowledged the "irregularities" in those ballot boxes.
Carter even congratulated 'the new government' days before GECOM declared a winner. Why did he return home when he has all his doctors and medical staff with him?
And I don't know where you get your news from but I'm telling you that the PPP administration and Venezuela were very close both politically and ideologically. The Americans are the undisputed heavy weight champions of regime change. Of course they would host Ramotar at the White House. Why would they make it obvious that they intended to shelve his ass at the first opportunity to install a puppet of their liking. The Exxon thing was the just the cherry on top.
You watch and see Maps. Granger and his band of PNC Burnhamite thugs will sell off and privatize that oil to Exxon for a few magic beans. Mark my words. 8)
here is the introduction of a different line, that does not contradict anything I said. the decline of the PP after 23 years is power led to a close election and defeat..that is my case.
if there is american involvement in the outcome of a close election you affirm that so you have to prove it. you may be right. why ::confused::
the Exxon oil discovery, coming just outside attack on Venezuela that clearly was calculated to set the deck for invasion, was blunted by global negative reaction. America could be off on a different tact using Guyana and supposed oil discovery as means to attack Venezuela by a different name.
so I began arguing that Guyana should try to clear up the land dispute with Maduro and Chavistas because if the right gets back in they most likely will solve that problem their way to the disadvantage of Guyana...noting that if it is the Venezuela right wing in charge the Americans will look the other way of they moved into Guyana.
on that I argued that that Exon oil discovery thing must be some gambit in the mix to attack Venezuela using BG...as Ramotar began what looked suspiciously like building an antagonism with Venezuela. but how could he when he does not even have a pesticide spraying plane and Venezuela have an air force of modern jets ::confused:: ::confused::
so it is Obvious what was happening..that the americans were 'spouncing' up and backing Guyana to raise a regional issue the end of which would be more pressure and even attack on Venezuela..and it was clear that Ramotar was an eager player
that is what I was arguing before the election. the only way the Americans would have tilted that election against Ramotar, would be if they have a firm commitment of far-reaching extent with Granger to go against Venezuela..and that Ramotar refused to go to that extent. so Obama tossed him.
that I doubt! I saw Ramotar go twice to the white house and that is ridiculous for a small impse country like BG, if something very important was not at stake. and that could only have been Chavista Venezuela and a role for BG in its destruction. and that Ramotar was a full player..as clear as day. so what reason would the Americans have had for tossing him ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::
that is my take on it snoops. if you have proof of what you claim by all means feel free.....
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The PPP uncovered evidence of rigging and tampered voting in 22 ballots alone. This was acknowledged by GECOM. In such a close general election why did the Americans declare the process as "free and fair" a day after May 11th? They maintained this even after GECOM acknowledged the "irregularities" in those ballot boxes.
Carter even congratulated 'the new government' days before GECOM declared a winner. Why did he return home when he has all his doctors and medical staff with him?
And I don't know where you get your news from but I'm telling you that the PPP administration and Venezuela were very close both politically and ideologically. The Americans are the undisputed heavy weight champions of regime change. Of course they would host Ramotar at the White House. Why would they make it obvious that they intended to shelve his ass at the first opportunity to install a puppet of their liking. The Exxon thing was the just the cherry on top.
You watch and see Maps. Granger and his band of PNC Burnhamite thugs will sell off and privatize that oil to Exxon for a few magic beans. Mark my words. 8)