Aussie batting attack weaker than Eng's?

TRINIDADDY · 05-09-2015, 06:56 PM

#1
In terms of batting averages, the Aussies have a weaker attack than the Brits.

Possible Aussie top-order lineup and their batting averages:

Clarke - 50+ (is he fit?)
Smith - 50+
Warner - 48
Doolan - 23
Rogers - 39
Haddin - 39
Marsh - 35
Watson - 35
Burns - 35

Clarke and Smith are dangerous, but Clarke is notorious for sucking outside of Australia and Smith is young and has never really been tested in WI conditions. Warner, of course, is dangerous as hell.

The rest of the team are statistically mediocre, but the Aussies have a knack of pulling good knocks out of nowhere and from nobody.

#2
and We have a knack of pulling off even greater knocks out of nowhere from statistical nobodies !

as in winning a Test match with a much higher ranked team with 2 days to spareย  :-*

#3
[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=97605.msg636817#msg636817 date=1431208602]
In terms of batting averages, the Aussies have a weaker attack than the Brits.

Possible Aussie top-order lineup and their batting averages:

Clarke - 50+ (is he fit?)
Smith - 50+
Warner - 48
Doolan - 23
Rogers - 39
Haddin - 39
Marsh - 35
Watson - 35
Burns - 35

Clarke and Smith are dangerous, but Clarke is notorious for sucking outside of Australia and Smith is young and has never really been tested in WI conditions. Warner, of course, is dangerous as hell.

The rest of the team are statistically mediocre, but the Aussies have a knack of pulling good knocks out of nowhere and from nobody.
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England's strength is definitely their batting although since January 1, 2014, Australia's batting has been marginally better. Since January 1, 2014, England have averaged 37.34 per wicket. Australia have averaged 40.28 per wicket. Over that time period, England have won 4, lost 4, drawn 3. Australia have won 5, lost 3, drawn 2.


Averages since January 1, 2014

England
Root - 94.58
Ballance - 62.35
Buttler - 62.00
Cook - 38.70
Bell - 33.72
Moeen Ali - 29.33
Stokes - 25.50

Australia
Smith 83.37
Warner 62.05
S Marsh 44.60
Rodgers 40.80
M Marsh 37.42
Clarke 35.75
Watson 29.58
Haddin 20.20

#4
Well numbers don't always tell the full story now do they? I think Australia is a better team than England and they will be a lot more confident especially with their recent world cup win. I think the Australians will be much harder to beat.

#5
[quote author=Rowe992 link=topic=97605.msg636870#msg636870 date=1431274563]
Well numbers don't always tell the full story now do they? I think Australia is a better team than England and they will be a lot more confident especially with their recent world cup win. I think the Australians will be much harder to beat.
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You are biased in you thinking. You have no rational thought when it comes to England. You can't argue the fact that Australia's numbers are almost identical to England's since 2014. You may THINK Australia are markedly better than England but the numbers actually say otherwise. Also, Trini was making the point about England's batting as a whole nothing more, nothing less. England's batting is their strong point. Root, Ballance and Buttler are world class.

#6
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=97605.msg636868#msg636868 date=1431273880]
England's strength is definitely their batting although since January 1, 2014, Australia's batting has been marginally better. Since January 1, 2014, England have averaged 37.34 per wicket. Australia have averaged 40.28 per wicket. Over that time period, England have won 4, lost 4, drawn 3. Australia have won 5, lost 3, drawn 2.


Averages since January 1, 2014

England
Root - 94.58
Ballance - 62.35
Buttler - 62.00
Cook - 38.70
Bell - 33.72
Moeen Ali - 29.33
Stokes - 25.50

Australia
Smith 83.37
Warner 62.05
S Marsh 44.60
Rodgers 40.80
M Marsh 37.42
Clarke 35.75
Watson 29.58
Haddin 20.20
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Wow,that puts everything in a nutshell,wonder how on earth d oyou get all statistics and in specific,all within a range.Good work buddy.Keep going.

#7
[quote author=Rowe992 link=topic=97605.msg636870#msg636870 date=1431274563]
Well numbers don't always tell the full story now do they? I think Australia is a better team than England and they will be a lot more confident especially with their recent world cup win. I think the Australians will be much harder to beat.
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Since 2012, away from home, Australia have won 4 Test matches, lost 8, drawn 3. If you want to take it back even further, since 2010, away from home, Australia have won 8 Test matches, lost 11, drawn 5. Australia have a losing away record. I don't think you understand the difficulties teams face when playing away from home.

#8
My take on these excellent stats provided :

We bundled them out for 123 runs : Yes Folks abc ,123

OZ will get a similar culture shockย  Wink

#9
I think we might have to drop Roach if we're to bowl them out agian. Gabriel seems more penetrative.

Choosing between Bishoo and Permaul is also tough. Bishoo bats better though.

#10
Sunil Narine is not a premier spinner : he is a Pelter or in old time parlance a "Chucker"

India Board have him on a very short Leash !

http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premi...67985.html

Sunil Narine has been banned from bowling his offbreaks in any match organised by the BCCI, including in the IPL.

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