Here Googly..The Men an' Dem you Love So Much

mapoui · 12-04-2014, 07:56 PM · 2 people reading this discussion

#1
an is one of them who write this too:

http://www.blackagendareport.com/node/14543

Quote:The Lessons of Libya
by Dan Glazebrook

This article previously appeared in Pambazuka News.
“Once they had been given the green light to bomb, they were not going to stop until the Jamahiriya was destroyed and Gaddafi dead.”

Three years ago, in late October 2011, the world witnessed the final defeat of the Libyan Jamahiriya – the name by which the Libyan state was known until overthrown in 2011, meaning literally the “state of the masses” – in the face of a massive onslaught from NATO, its regional allies and local collaborators.

It took seven months for the world’s most powerful military alliance – with a combined military spending of just under $1 trillion per year – to fully destroy the Jamahiriya (a state with a population the size of Wales) and it took a joint British-French-Qatari special forces operation to finally win control of the capital. In total, 10,000 strike sorties were rained down on Libya, tens of thousands killed and injured, and the country left a battleground for hundreds of warring factions, armed to the teeth with weapons either looted from state armories or provided directly by NATO and its allies. Britain, France and the US had led a war which had effectively transformed a peaceful, prosperous African country into a textbook example of a “failed state.”

Yet the common image of Libya in the months and years leading up to the invasion was that of a state that had “come in from the cold” and was now enjoying friendly relations with the West. Tony Blair’s famous embrace of Gaddafi in his tent in 2004 was said to have ushered in a new period of “rapprochement,” with Western companies rushing to do business in the oil-rich African state, and Gaddafi’s abandonment of a nuclear deterrent apparently indicative of the new spirit of trust and co-operation between Libya and the West.

Yet this image was largely a myth. Yes, sanctions were lifted and diplomatic relations restored; but this did not represent any newfound trust and friendship. Gaddafi himself never changed his opinion that the forces of old and new colonialism remained bitter enemies of African unity and independence, and for their part, the US, Britain and France continued to resent the assertiveness and independence of Libyan foreign policy under Gaddafi’s leadership. The African Oil Policy Initiative Group (AOPIG) – an elite US think tank comprising congressmen, military officers and energy industry lobbyists – warned in 2002 that the influence of “adversaries such as Libya” would only grow unless the US significantly increased its military presence on the continent. Yet, despite “rapprochement,” Gaddafi remained a staunch opponent of such a presence, as noted with anxiety in frequent diplomatic cables from the US Embassy. One, for example, from 2009, noted that “the presence of non-African military elements in Libya or elsewhere on the continent” was almost a “neuralgic issue” for Gaddafi. Another cable from 2008 quoted a pro-Western Libyan government official as saying that “there will be no real economic or political reform in Libya until al-Gaddafi passes from the political scene” which would “not happen while Gaddafi is alive”; hardly the image of a man bending to the will of the West.
“Gaddafi remained implacably opposed to the US and European military presence on the continen

#3
now googs beat up on BlackAgenda report again..as a bad site. 

don't criticize what they say, with fact and evidence just toss them out as a dumb site presumably because its a black owned and written site.

#4
Quote:BlackAgenda

enough said!  Tongue

#5
[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=94367.msg602779#msg602779 date=1417790892]
enough said!  Tongue
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why...WHY...WHY ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::


#6
WHY ENUFF SAID  GOOGS,,ABOUT BLACK AGENDA REPORT ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

you keep hitting BLACK AGENDA REPORT and not saying why it is no good, anathema to you!  you should be able to say why but you never do. 

what!  are we supposed to take you claim as the literal word of god about a whole, regular like clockwork publication?

come on man.  we need to know why you hate BAR..what about it that turns you off.  otherwise your criticism means absolutely zilch

#7
I will bet any dam money that you cant say anything at all about BAR googs because you dont know how.  you don't know what BA discusses, don't understand it and so cant criticize it.

all you can say is that by rote as you disavow all that is black you so disavow BAR.  that is all.  but you cant get into BAR and tear it apart.  more accurately you wont do tha..not ever..whether you can or not.. because it is BLACK

I will bet good money that your last post was your very last you will make on this thread Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

#8
I already know BAR's agenda...what else is there to discuss?  ::LOL::

is like talking to you!!!  ::LOL::

Tunnel vision!  ::LOL::

#9
[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=94367.msg602803#msg602803 date=1417795982]
I already know BAR's agenda...what else is there to discuss?  ::LOL::

is like talking to you!!!  ::LOL::

Tunnel vision!  ::LOL::
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yuh doan unnerstan'!  yu doh know wat yuh talkin' about :'( :'(

#10
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=94367.msg602818#msg602818 date=1417797246]
yuh doan unnerstan'!  yu doh know wat yuh talkin' about :'( :'(
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oh I do understand.  Its like expecting a drug company to perform testing on their product and expecting a result other than favorable!  ::LOL::

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