10 Facts About Slavery in Guyana That Shaped the Society

[quote author=Big Cat link=topic=93609.msg596184#msg596184 date=1414443342]
if you have been in an early morning train in ny you would see people cramp together like cattle goiing to slaughter. their sleepy eyes tell you they wished if they could be somewhere else.
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Yep. They rather be someplace else.

And then when they're unemployed and have no job to go to they do what?

They start whining about politicians and capitol hill. Correct?  ::LOL::

"The society set for voluntary slavery is better than the one set for forced slavery because the one set for forced slavery is slowest to develop and learn and is more laden in armed conflict."

No, you are missing the point. I am telling you there is more forced slavery now, in what you call our era of "free society", than in the past. I'm talking literal slaves. There are literally more slaves now than at any other point in human history. Not wage slaves. Not metaphorical slaves. Not sweat shop labour. LITERAL SLAVES. Across the planet, there are 400 slaves per 100,000 persons.

According to you, this is good. This thing, which you do not believe exists today, which you are in denial about, is good, because it is "progress".

[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=93609.msg596215#msg596215 date=1414454947]
"The society set for voluntary slavery is better than the one set for forced slavery because the one set for forced slavery is slowest to develop and learn and is more laden in armed conflict."

No, you are missing the point. I am telling you there is more forced slavery now, in what you call our era of "free society", than in the past. I'm talking literal slaves. There are literally more slaves now than at any other point in human history. Not wage slaves. Not metaphorical slaves. Not sweat shop labour. LITERAL SLAVES. Across the planet, there are 400 slaves per 100,000 persons.

According to you, this is good. This thing, which you do not believe exists today, which you are in denial about, is good, because it is "progress".
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No. There is said to be 7 billion people on Earth, and if that's true, then there's approximately 6.6 billion slaves because at least 95% of the world population has a slave mentality. And still, we as a species are making progress. It may not be to your approval, but nevertheless still progress.

And the majority of that number are not forced but voluntary slaves.

There's a difference.

"No. There is said to be 7 billion people on Earth, and if that's true, then there's approximately 6.6 billion slaves because at least 95% of the world population has a slave mentality. And still, we as a species are making progress. It may not be to your approval, but nevertheless still progress."

But I am telling you that there is MORE LITERAL SLAVERY today than at the height of chattel slavery. I am not talking about "slave mentalities". I agree that under conteporary society, many people function "like slaves", but that is not what I am talking about.

What I am saying is that there are MORE HUMAN BEINGS HELD IN FORCED LABOUR AND BONDAGE (ie LITERAL SLAVES) than in the 1800s. MORE HUMAN BEINGS are enslaved and held as property than in the 1800s.

Modern slavery is a multi-billion dollar industry. The United Nations itself estimates that roughly 27 to 30 million individuals are currently caught in the slave trade. The Global Slavery Index puts the number at 29 million. The Walk Free foundation puts the number at 30 million, in exactly 162 countries. Even enlightened, "first world" nations have between 52,000 and 87,000 slaves. It's even still going on in the West Indies; one in every 48 people in Haiti, for example, is a slave.

And the ratio of "slaves to free humans", globally, is only slightly less than the ratio was in the 19th century. (it was 5 slaves per 1000 "free men" in the 1800s, now its 4 per 1000)

I am not talking about exploited third world labour, low paid sweatshop workers, people scraping by on low wages or metaphorical dudes with "a slave mentality". I am talking about old school slavery. The thing you are calling "beneficial" and "responsible for progress" and "something we have moved beyond" is what I am saying is "still here", "worse" and "the obscene bedrock of much that is touted as progress".

Excellent statistic , Trinidaddy : This shatters all arguments.  8)


[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=93609.msg596273#msg596273 date=1414498908]
I am talking about old school slavery. The thing you are calling "beneficial" and "responsible for progress" and "something we have moved beyond" is what I am saying is "still here", "worse" and "the obscene bedrock of much that is touted as progress".
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btw : Guyana slaves descendants became Doctorates in various disciplines !

Pity Dr. Walter Rodney was assinated by his fellow descendant , an  LSE grad and Q.C....

                                                       

The good Doctor Ivan : 

                                     

Progress is to rise above your innate desire for Violence to settle differnces...! 


                                               
                                                     

Factum : Guyana got a different TRIBE in the Ship than say, Jamaica:

we got Ashantis , dem got Zulus , Trinidad got Xhosas