Moen Ali England captain?

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We have had the most major upheaval since the early 80s, in my view. We achieved number 1 on the back of Cook and Trotts volume of runs. Runs that allowed the bowlers to express themselves as creatively as tehy wished. This was backed up by Bell with contributions from Pietersen et al.

With Trott gone, we lost a big stanilising force at 3.
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You did not mention a player who I think also played a big factor in England's success - Graeme Swann.

IMO he was a world class spinner who England could call on  - he would keep the runs down and always seemed capable of picking up a crucial wicket or two.

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You did not mention a player who I think also played a big factor in England's success - Graeme Swann.

IMO he was a world class spinner who England could call on  - he would keep the runs down and always seemed capable of picking up a crucial wicket or two.
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Actually that is a major faux pas on my part as he facilitated and created several victories.....

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genious is as genius does.  room has to be made....

he were all together making a team for Cook to lead.  this is the team.  it is short of experience and leadership.  and it needs a new keeper.

Prior shud have been a source of experience and stability. he is not.  he is one of those selected to be led by Cookie.  he is useless to the team and shud be tossed.
You do not toss your loyal performing players at the first signhs of failure. His batting average in the last 3 years have been fairly consistent @ 39,31 and 33! His form with the gloves is teh real issue as it released India from a lot of pressure. The spotlight is on him but I do not expect him to be dropped as they will wait to after the series to reassess. I do not think we have a test series for almost a year.... is that true?

deh did give Jordan too short of a run.  but isnt Ballance a tall white bwoy all rounder?
visions of Flintoff dancin' in deh heads ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

Quote:Brotehr you should always look for the best in people and situations. You are once again lowering yourself to insinuations and prejudice when it is highly likely it is not there. We have no compulsion to select any particular person except on merit and CJ fits that bill and still does and I hope to see him in colours again soon.

Yes I think it was a selection error, to drop CJ and that is my personal view, but the selectors probably felt as Stokes had scored a century in difficult circumstances and also bowled very well in Australia he should be reintroduced after injury and a string of good performances for his county team. I believe that is reasonable don't you? So do not read more than there is to the situation. For me Stokes looks absent and I would have stayed with CJ for this series. BTW it is not Ballance.

but england is not my team and I dont care.  so what I am doing up in here arguing about engaland ::confused::

Quote:I think you are rightly here debating Cricket and expressing a welcomed view and that is appropriate except where unsubstantiated comments are made.

you are right :  I will kindly keep quiet! :-[ With the utmost respect brother, I agree you should if you cannot substantiate.

I wish for you, a man of your experience, to see situations for what they are and not presume the worse scenario. We know prejudice is a cancer but it might be more prevalent in your/ our Islands than you would care to acknowledge. Forget the colour thing as when we depart we do not want to take taht hate and enmity to our graves.

Peace be unto you brother.
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Ali will be another failure  like the other muslim captain of England, Nasser Hussain

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Ali will be another failure  like the other muslim captain of England, Nasser Hussain
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As a Bible thumping Xtian....U should be excommunicated  >


ex·com·mu·ni·cate : verb

1.Officially exclude (someone) from participation in the sacraments and services :

of the Christian Church.

[quote author=ramesh link=topic=91321.msg576348#msg576348 date=1405959051]
Ali will be another failure  like the other muslim captain of England, Nasser Hussain
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Why was Hussain a failure?

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Why was Hussain a failure?
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De Bible thumper seh is because he is Muslim :

bokie, comprehension problems ?  :-\

Way down the pecking order surely, as it has been pointed out.  The guy just debuted and I think it's a given that Bell's the next one if Cook steps down. And there's Broad, even.

However despite Cook having a horrid time doubt if we're going to see a change.

Quote:Brotehr you should always look for the best in people and situations. You are once again lowering yourself to insinuations and prejudice when it is highly likely it is not there. We have no compulsion to select any particular person except on merit and CJ fits that bill and still does and I hope to see him in colours again soon.

bwoy!  you live in england way too long.  why do you always read me so narrowly!  you read me wrong and loose you cool and then attack me and say all manner of things about me.  but it is you who reading wrong..not my fault.

I am playing all kinds of games most time.  here are all kinds of meaning in what I usually say but I cant explain to you how I talk so you cyan understand.  you have to battle with it  or doh read it

like when I say what I doing up in here arguing about england... I doh like england. is you say I shud keep quiet if I doh meet your criteria.  so I said in a funny way to produce lafter.  at the same time I doh like england but not in the literal way

I am an englishman..a black one.  it was not my choice.  there must be ambivalence in there.  you make no allowance for it.  that is a fact full of meaning and possibilities..but you do not consider it and its probable impact on me..how it influences my pronouncements about england..the language I speak.  why not ::confused:: :

when I say visions of Andrew Flintoff what do I mean.  the english loved Flintoff and white boys like him.  he is tall, fair, brilliant..a kid all english people look at as their son. 

something wrong with that!  no!  if an englishman comes uo to play, encapsulates in his looks something like a standard appearance the british love, who harkens to their standard imagery why would they not all pull for him, want him to succeed ::confused::  why would they not compare him to such standards or those who previously expressed those standards..and give him every chance to succeed.

Jordan does not fit those standards and would find difficulty in beating out anyone who does if he wants to play for england.  Standards for Jordan do not exist.  now if Jordan turns out to be brilliant, sets some records and is an icon for a a career of some 12-15 years then he sets those standards which become part of the english.

it has nutten to do with right or wrong.  it is just the way it is in the social life.  so when I mention Flintoff that is what I am playing with..what's in the english mind..archetypes and how it results in facts on the ground...

I can go on and on about what I said there but it is sufficient to say it is much more than you gathered and your critique is kinda off the mark..moralistic, pontificating

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I am an englishman..a black one.  it was not my choice.
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STOP misleading people : You are a Spaniard.

Your country's capital is a port of Spain.

Your favorite food flavour is chadeau beni.

U love Carnival !

Commesse , Picong , bacchanal are not English !