[quote author=Chin link=topic=86034.msg538387#msg538387 date=1386965979]
Some excellent cricketing points here Sir and if I may, I would like to make some comments to your points, which may make these points seem rather long.
Its obvious West Indies over the last two decades have selected bowlers that are very
unskilled and lack mental fortitude and it shows , yet we persist .
They lack proper coaching and the ability to go beyond dung heap tourneys.
These points are universal and the issue is with the mediocrity of coaching but the perception and aptitude of players themselves....ae key components.
Insularity, poor management by the WICB resulted in such a long lean period.
This is an unfortunate infliction and if it comprises more than 5% of the problem then there are real problems.
Some of the players have talent , do they have the mental fortitude ?
Excellent point but mental fortitude is not coached, in my view, it is a consequence of culture, the person, expectations but Coaches can play a vital role if they are suitably qualified. So the question is are Coaches well meaning but unqualified?
The proper program to see which one meets such a criteria seems to be lacking at
the WICB level . Very good point.
If such a system existed Tino Best would not be playing for the West Indies .
Gabriel would be in his home country Performance Center honing his skills as other prospects.
From what I have seen of this chap from International debut, he has something and in this series he seems to be learning on the job, as many West Indians do, so I back him as a possible potent force. Allowing young players to develop is essential. He is at the start but look at Samuels who has played numerous tests but still is ordinary by numbers, although the last 2 years have seen vast leaps. The same opportunities have to be extended to your young talent.
Selectors will not decide who plays in what format , a scientific program will determined such
based on a series of aptitude and mental testing . The physical aspect is easy , the former
two must be identified before the latter or we will have more Tino Best's coming through the
system.
Interesting assessment and the need to assess is good but I do not think it needs be very prescriptive as mental aptitude can only be seen on the field in testing circumstances. I would not wish to be too scientific but the science has a genuine role.
We must always remember the players are only as good as management , they reflect the
brain thrust of the WICB . Just as how we select clowns at the WICB level , we do the same
on the playing field.
I am not sure I concur the players are as good as management so being pedantic, they are as good as their industriousness but mismanagement can destroy much. Look at Sarwan and even Taylor. Further this mismanagement in the context of West Indies can be extended to Mr. Chanderpaul being sacked from ODIs.
At the WICB level ,we are insular , don't trust each other , look after our own benefits,
Management skills are lacking with a business plan , transparency and accountability doesn't
exist , conflicts of interest are ignored , Intelligence not required.
It is no wonder you look outside to mitigate the issues you raised. Very interesting Chin.
If we were to look at the players on the Team , one would see all of the above .
It has been predominant for over two decades ..in conclusion ,,we like it so.
Do I expect a change no.
Do not make change for the sake of change but when it is essential, as it appears now, it must be done in a controlled non disruptive manner....
This is a nice analysis that could apply to any control environment...well done Sir
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Some excellent cricketing points here Sir and if I may, I would like to make some comments to your points, which may make these points seem rather long.
Its obvious West Indies over the last two decades have selected bowlers that are very
unskilled and lack mental fortitude and it shows , yet we persist .
They lack proper coaching and the ability to go beyond dung heap tourneys.
These points are universal and the issue is with the mediocrity of coaching but the perception and aptitude of players themselves....ae key components.
Insularity, poor management by the WICB resulted in such a long lean period.
This is an unfortunate infliction and if it comprises more than 5% of the problem then there are real problems.
Some of the players have talent , do they have the mental fortitude ?
Excellent point but mental fortitude is not coached, in my view, it is a consequence of culture, the person, expectations but Coaches can play a vital role if they are suitably qualified. So the question is are Coaches well meaning but unqualified?
The proper program to see which one meets such a criteria seems to be lacking at
the WICB level . Very good point.
If such a system existed Tino Best would not be playing for the West Indies .
Gabriel would be in his home country Performance Center honing his skills as other prospects.
From what I have seen of this chap from International debut, he has something and in this series he seems to be learning on the job, as many West Indians do, so I back him as a possible potent force. Allowing young players to develop is essential. He is at the start but look at Samuels who has played numerous tests but still is ordinary by numbers, although the last 2 years have seen vast leaps. The same opportunities have to be extended to your young talent.
Selectors will not decide who plays in what format , a scientific program will determined such
based on a series of aptitude and mental testing . The physical aspect is easy , the former
two must be identified before the latter or we will have more Tino Best's coming through the
system.
Interesting assessment and the need to assess is good but I do not think it needs be very prescriptive as mental aptitude can only be seen on the field in testing circumstances. I would not wish to be too scientific but the science has a genuine role.
We must always remember the players are only as good as management , they reflect the
brain thrust of the WICB . Just as how we select clowns at the WICB level , we do the same
on the playing field.
I am not sure I concur the players are as good as management so being pedantic, they are as good as their industriousness but mismanagement can destroy much. Look at Sarwan and even Taylor. Further this mismanagement in the context of West Indies can be extended to Mr. Chanderpaul being sacked from ODIs.
At the WICB level ,we are insular , don't trust each other , look after our own benefits,
Management skills are lacking with a business plan , transparency and accountability doesn't
exist , conflicts of interest are ignored , Intelligence not required.
It is no wonder you look outside to mitigate the issues you raised. Very interesting Chin.
If we were to look at the players on the Team , one would see all of the above .
It has been predominant for over two decades ..in conclusion ,,we like it so.
Do I expect a change no.
Do not make change for the sake of change but when it is essential, as it appears now, it must be done in a controlled non disruptive manner....
This is a nice analysis that could apply to any control environment...well done Sir
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