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U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - The Unity Tiger - 03-11-2012
Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- An American soldier went on a house-to-house shooting spree in two villages in southern Afghanistan early Sunday, Afghan officials said, killing 16 people in what Afghanistan's president called an "unforgivable" crime.
NATO's International Security Assistance Force said the soldier acted alone and turned himself in to his commanders after opening fire on civilians. U.S. President Barack Obama called the killings "tragic and shocking," and offered his condolences to the Afghan people.
But Afghan President Hamid Karzai called the killings "unforgivable," and the attack is likely to further more anger at international forces following deadly riots over the burning of Qurans by U.S. troops.
"The Afghan people can with withstand a lot of pain," Prince Ali Seraj, the head of the National Coalition for Dialogue with the Tribes of Afghanistan, told CNN. "They can withstand collateral damage. They can withstand night raids. But murder is something that they totally abhor, and when that happens, they really want justice."
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - dave6 - 03-12-2012
[quote author=The Unity Tiger link=topic=64327.msg403047#msg403047 date=1331494743]
Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- An American soldier went on a house-to-house shooting spree in two villages in southern Afghanistan early Sunday, Afghan officials said, killing 16 people in what Afghanistan's president called an "unforgivable" crime.
NATO's International Security Assistance Force said the soldier acted alone and turned himself in to his commanders after opening fire on civilians. U.S. President Barack Obama called the killings "tragic and shocking," and offered his condolences to the Afghan people.
But Afghan President Hamid Karzai called the killings "unforgivable," and the attack is likely to further more anger at international forces following deadly riots over the burning of Qurans by U.S. troops.
"The Afghan people can with withstand a lot of pain," Prince Ali Seraj, the head of the National Coalition for Dialogue with the Tribes of Afghanistan, told CNN. "They can withstand collateral damage. They can withstand night raids. But murder is something that they totally abhor, and when that happens, they really want justice."
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did you hear about this american soldier that in iraq that killed tons of civilians and just ran from house to house lobbing grenades? he and his whole squad got off without even a slap on the wrist!!!
When the Germans and Japanese did things like this it was well documented and used to paint the German and Japanese people as savages but when the americans do its excused because these men are in tuff situations. i have great empathy for what soldiers face and the pain they go through but you can not excuse killing unarmed women and children.
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - Nargis - 03-12-2012
its all the drugs and brain washing they do to the soliders. the guy must have run off and with his delirium he just shot up what he thought was the 'enemy'.
Obama should shove his 'condolences' up his ass
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - Kwami - 03-12-2012
Obama should be called the butcher of Kandahar , nobel peace prize my ass
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - ketchim - 03-12-2012
Chairman busy defending the release of the HI Virus in Africa !
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - mapoui - 03-12-2012
Quote: i have great empathy for what soldiers face and the pain they go through but you can not excuse killing unarmed women and children.
I have to laff! and dave6 always goses off on me. calling me barbarian and all such monstrosities.
why would dave6 have empathy with soldiers?
or more accurately,... when is it possible, logically to empathise with soldiers?
it not logical to emphatise with soldeirs on a mission in a forrin land save that mission is in response to catastrophe and they are there on a mission of mercy.
it is entirely logical to emphatise with and support soldiers in defednse of their homeland, on their homeland...not defending their homeland by attacking and destroying the homeland of others.
if soldeirs reasoned like that, there woud be no human fodder for elites to make war with.
but men agree to be soldeirs, to take and carry out all oders, no matter what they are..or where they are to be carried out.
none os theser orders...not even 1... over a hundered years since world wars began have these orders been anythng but securing and advancing the power and profit of a very small circle of the worlds humans.
soldiers then work in the interest of this small elite, enhancing the power of this small elite in the world, while decreasing the power of everyone else...including sldiers.
this loss of soldier power reflects itself in the fact that soldiers, when they are back from war, become a disrespected and despised section of society, usually injured in mind and body or both, unemployed and discarded, ending up under crumbling bridges, in parks and woods, on street cornes and sundry cubbies as home.
soldeirs then..or the majority of those who become soldiers... despite the experience of a hundered years of soldiering... who have been so destroyed... continue to sacrifice their lives for what is the profit of a few. they kill and maim millions of people whom they do not know, but who have been demonised to them as gooks, chinks, nips, nihghgers, wops, spiks, huks, jerries etc, to be killed on sight.
so terrorised by IEDs, sniper fire and general gurilla warfare in which he does not know and cannot know his enemy, from the general poplation.. soldier runs amok and kill all the people, seeking prolly to end the problem then and there. kill them all and let the american god sort them out. sorting by him is altogether too hard and may cost him his life. they are all gooks anyway.
what are american solderis doing in afghanistan?
thats the question?
soldiers are damm fools and warrant no empathy. they should enlist to go nowhere to fight for anyone, but to defend the homeland. period!
and to emphatise with american soldiers..the only soldiers all over the world killing people of dark skin exposes a man for where his sympathise really lie....not with ordianry folk the world over..only with a certain kind of folk period. and deh aint dark!
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - ketchim - 03-12-2012
Post dem on the Mexican Border :evil:
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - mapoui - 03-12-2012
post dem where dave lives :cheesy: :cheesy:
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - dave6 - 03-12-2012
[quote author=Kwami link=topic=64327.msg403283#msg403283 date=1331569486]
Obama should be called the butcher of Kandahar , nobel peace prize my ass
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wow first intelligent kwami has ever made... at least from what i have seen.
Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says - dave6 - 03-12-2012
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=64327.msg403305#msg403305 date=1331572437]
I have to laff! and dave6 always goses off on me. calling me barbarian and all such monstrosities.
why would dave6 have empathy with soldiers?
or more accurately,... when is it possible, logically to empathise with soldiers?
it not logical to emphatise with soldeirs on a mission in a forrin land save that mission is in response to catastrophe and they are there on a mission of mercy.
it is entirely logical to emphatise with and support soldiers in defednse of their homeland, on their homeland...not defending their homeland by attacking and destroying the homeland of others.
if soldeirs reasoned like that, there woud be no human fodder for elites to make war with.
but men agree to be soldeirs, to take and carry out all oders, no matter what they are..or where they are to be carried out.
none os theser orders...not even 1... over a hundered years since world wars began have these orders been anythng but securing and advancing the power and profit of a very small circle of the worlds humans.
soldiers then work in the interest of this small elite, enhancing the power of this small elite in the world, while decreasing the power of everyone else...including sldiers.
this loss of soldier power reflects itself in the fact that soldiers, when they are back from war, become a disrespected and despised section of society, usually injured in mind and body or both, unemployed and discarded, ending up under crumbling bridges, in parks and woods, on street cornes and sundry cubbies as home.
soldeirs then..or the majority of those who become soldiers... despite the experience of a hundered years of soldiering... who have been so destroyed... continue to sacrifice their lives for what is the profit of a few. they kill and maim millions of people whom they do not know, but who have been demonised to them as gooks, chinks, nips, nihghgers, wops, spiks, huks, jerries etc, to be killed on sight.
so terrorised by IEDs, sniper fire and general gurilla warfare in which he does not know and cannot know his enemy, from the general poplation.. soldier runs amok and kill all the people, seeking prolly to end the problem then and there. kill them all and let the american god sort them out. sorting by him is altogether too hard and may cost him his life. they are all gooks anyway.
what are american solderis doing in afghanistan?
thats the question?
soldiers are damm fools and warrant no empathy. they should enlist to go nowhere to fight for anyone, but to defend the homeland. period!
and to emphatise with american soldiers..the only soldiers all over the world killing people of dark skin exposes a man for where his sympathise really lie....not with ordianry folk the world over..only with a certain kind of folk period. and deh aint dark!
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oh i can explain that why would i have empathy for other human beings aside from myself. because i do not latch onto polarized views and have the baility to understand different perspectives and i have a understanding that my view is not supreme and i can see past my own anger pain and frustration maybe you will achieve this one day but being that i am young and you are already old nearing the end of your cycle i doubt you will get to the point i already got to within less than thirty years.
but like you said how does one survive in a evolutionary world? by evolving mentally.
and i never called you a barbarian like many things you claim i said you came up with that on your own