Quote:The Alliance israélite universelle (Hebrew: כל ישראל חברים) is a Paris-based international Jewish organization founded in 1860 by the French statesman Adolphe Crémieux to safeguard the human rights of Jews around the world. The organization promotes the ideals of Jewish self-defense and self-sufficiency through education and professional development. It is noted for establishing French-language schools for Jewish children throughout the Mediterranean, Iran and the Ottoman Empire in the 19th and early 20th century.

The motto of the organization is the Jewish rabbinic injunction Kol yisrael arevim ze laze (כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה), translated into French as Tous les israélites sont solidaires les uns des autres ("All Jews are responsible for one another").[

Quote:Muslims believe the Koran was an “uncreated” book, by which they mean it existed before the dawn of time itself. According to their belief, Mohammed was not the author of the Koran. He just listened to it being recited by the Angel Gabriel. And since the “prophet” himself was illiterate. the text was then written down by others based on Mohammed’s recollections of what he had heard.

Wouldn’t it be interesting, then, if the text of the Koran contained secret messages, written by Jews, including coded insults of Mohammed calling him a violent idiot? This is the story told in various Jewish medieval texts, carefully kept secret from the Goyim.

Quote:For more than two decades, Abdulkarim Soroush has been Iran’s leading public intellectual. Deeply versed in Islamic theology and mysticism, he was chosen by Ayatollah Khomeini to “Islamicize” Iran’s universities, only to eventually turn against the theocratic state. He paid a price for his dissidence. Vigilantes and other government-supported elements disrupted his widely attended lectures in Iran, beat him and reportedly nearly assassinated him. In a country where intellectuals are often treated like rock stars, Soroush has been venerated and reviled for his outspoken support of religious pluralism and democracy. Now he has taken one crucial step further. Shuttling from university to university in Europe and the U.S., Soroush is sending shock waves through Iran’s clerical establishment.

The recent controversy began about eight months ago, after Soroush spoke with a Dutch reporter about one of Islam’s most sensitive issues: the divine origin of the Koran. Muslims have long believed that their holy book was transmitted word for word by God through the Prophet Muhammad. In the interview, however, Soroush made explicit his alternative belief that the Koran was a “prophetic experience.” He told me that the prophet “was at the same time the receiver and the producer of the Koran or, if you will, the subject and the object of the revelation.” Soroush said that “when you read the Koran, you have to feel that a human being is speaking to you, i.e. the words, images, rules and regulations and the like all are coming from a human mind.” He added, “This mind, of course, is special in the sense that it is imbued with divinity and inspired by God.”

As Soroush’s words spread thanks to the Internet, Iran’s grand ayatollahs entered the battlefield. In their rebuttal, the clerics pointed to the Koranic verses that state “this is a book we have sent down to you (O Muhammad).” They ask, Don’t these verses imply that God is the revealer and Muhammad the receiver? They also point out that there were times when Muhammad waited impatiently for the revelation to come to him and that in more than 300 cases the prophet is commanded to tell his people to do one thing or another. This demonstrates, the argument goes, that the commands are coming from elsewhere rather than from the heart or the mind of the prophet himself.

mapoui post=371175 Wrote:a process begun in 1870 when the AIU sent over their team to begin work on the Koran.
in all the project took 49 years from start to acceptance of the Koran in 1919 in Syria.

mapoui post=371176 Wrote:[Best Answer: The Quran is first and foremost an oral recitation. Illiteracy was quite common in Arabia in the 7th century and so the Arabs had a strong oral tradition going back many generations

Quote:You could really buy into SH!T ....
I can name you SCRIBES that could have written in Arabic
thousand and thousands of years ago .....
but I wont bother :whistle: