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Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - dillinger10 - 11-05-2016

Given the two recent series in the subcontinent, I thought it would be timely to see how the major Test sides have fared against spin since 2015. I was finally able to gain access to the data I needed and parse everything to put into a neat table.

Overall vs spin since 2015
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Overall vs right-hand spinners (both off-spinners and leg spinners)
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And then broken down further...
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South Africa have really struggled against spin, although a large part of that was the horrific series against India. England's numbers will probably look a whole lot worse by years end.

West Indies have struggled most against slow left-armers with Herath causing the most damage (15 wickets at an average of 16.13).


Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - chairman - 11-05-2016

wow. i have to take the time to go through it.

Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - ketchim - 11-05-2016

Great stuff !

betcha he got only RHBs 1

[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=106900.msg719026#msg719026 date=1478375687]
West Indies have struggled most against slow left-armers with Herath causing the most damage (15 wickets at an average of 16.13)
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Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - dillinger10 - 11-05-2016

Herath's 15 victims in that two match series:
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Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - ketchim - 11-05-2016

[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=106831.msg719052#msg719052 date=1478387425]
[size=10pt]to parse out the splits for right-hand and left-hand batsmen against spin.[/size]

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matters not Avg and SR differential is not worth the effort to detemine

IF Leggies are more expensive than Offies .

Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - ketchim - 11-05-2016

I would not conclude that Leggies leak more runs versus Offies.

marginal as well for wkts. per innings.

Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - Mail - 11-05-2016

Dilly,

Is there an error as the thread said since 2015 but tne lead post says 2013!

Does that change anything?

With numbers and your general cricketing expertise what are our thoughts about batsmens' effectiveness gains spin?

Many thanks.

Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - dillinger10 - 11-06-2016

Good eye, Mail. Yes, it should have read since 2015. I have gone ahead and updated the original post to reflect this. Thanks.

One of the (many) things I believe DRS has changed for the better is bringing back finger spinners (especially left-arm orthodox) into the game. Rangana Herath is a great example of this. In the first six years of his career, 19% of his Test wickets were taken by lbw, but this has risen to 27% in the years since the introduction of DRS. With the recent changes to increase the umpires call zone, this number will surely rise further.

As to your question, I believe the best players are those that rotate the strike and are not just looking to survive. They manipulate the field, get off strike and never allow the bowler to settle. Their aggressiveness also helps to remove those fielders in close.  I thought Ben Duckett was the only English batsman to do this in the second Test against Bangladesh. One shot I would like to see the English batsman eliminate during the forthcoming series against India is the back foot cut. I'd much rather the batsman look to play a punch shot instead. And as always, foot movement is crucial. Look to come forward first as you can always pick the length and go back.

Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to the upcoming series with India, though concerned with the makeup of England's batting lineup. It's too left-handed heavy for my liking.

Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - dillinger10 - 11-06-2016

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106900.msg719112#msg719112 date=1478451313]
and opening post  Wink [/quote]
In an effort to make up for my inability to differentiate between 2013 and 2015, I went ahead and parsed the data since 2013. At least something good come from my poor proofreading skills. Smile

Overall vs all spinners since 2013:
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Re: Test batting averages against spin since 2015 - dillinger10 - 11-06-2016

Vs right-arm spinners since 2013:
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