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Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - zacaroni - 07-09-2016

Quote:Getting dropped has to be a depressing experience. Players are therefore within their rights when they express some degree of displeasure. Some even take such outbursts as an indication of passion, as a sign that the spot meant a lot to the player and chances are he’ll work assiduously to win it back. Players are normally allowed some leeway in such circumstances. Intemperate remarks are often forgiven.

Ramdin, however, went beyond that. His response hints at a thin-skinned, juvenile sense of entitlement. In that, it was not unlike his unfortunate celebration upon reaching a century during the last test of the West Indies’ 2012 tour of England, when he held up a note reading “YEA VIV TALK NAH,” after the great man was critical of his batting form.

Additionally, Ramdin’s mention of Browne’s fatal error in his debut Test and his general dismissal of the chief selector’s abilities as a player were totally absurd. His record as player has little bearing on his competence as a selector. Taken to its logical conclusion, Ramdin’s words would mean that only star players like Lara and Richards, Chanderpaul and Ambrose should be selectors. It is the same kind of fallacy that leads many to believe the great player will almost automatically become a good coach. I wonder how Ramdin feels about head coach, Phil Simmons, who averaged only 22.26 runs per innings in 26 Tests.

Ramdin Has Himself To Blame


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - ketchim - 07-09-2016

Browne's use of 5-6 years stats are worrisome.
Stats beyond 2 1/2 years are useless and keep on players who are not performing.
This analysis goes back to the Indian series in 2014.

Ratings used 40+ good, 25 - 39 middling, 11 - 24 fail, 0 - 10 poor.
Not outs not considered unless over 40.

This is  how some of the current players stack up :

Kregg Brath 9G, 5M, 5F, 10P (48%).
Darren Br 12G, 8M, 6F, 7P (59%).
Samuels 6G, 3M, 10F, 13P (26%).
Chandrika 0G, 3M, 0F, 3P  (50%).
Ramdin 7G, 7M, 9F, 13P (39%).
Hope 0G, 3M, 2F, 6P (27%).
Blackwood 8G, 5M, 6F, 7P (50%).
Dowrich 1G, 0M, 2F, 1P (25%).

The % is a measure of reliability to get 25 or more runs in an inning.

Note how Hope and Dowrich stack up against Ramdin.

Also note how low Samuels reliability stands.

Bravo leads the pack. ..


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - mapoui - 07-09-2016

to drop Ramdin is silly, vindictive and self inflicted damage.

but dat is the wicb..incredibly self destructive


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - 7643664 - 07-09-2016

another stupid move considering he in form & a good player of spin.


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - dillinger10 - 07-09-2016

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another stupid move considering he in form & a good player of spin.
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Over the last 12 months, Ramdin has a Test average of 21.22. Taken back further, over the last 2 years, his average is even lower - 19.36.

His career Test average against spinners is 22.48.


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - zsk77 - 07-10-2016

[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=105164.msg701859#msg701859 date=1468081319]
Over the last 12 months, Ramdin has a Test average of 21.22. Taken back further, over the last 2 years, his average is even lower - 19.36.

His career Test average against spinners is 22.48.
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Ramdin’s batting average though is better than quite a number of his recent predecessors who are highly respected and some even deemed legends of the game including Deryck Murray (22.90 Test/24.50 ODI), Ridley Jacobs (28.31 Test/23.31 ODI), Junior Murray (22.39 Test/22.60 ODI) and David Williams (13.44 Test/9.18 ODI). Only Jeffrey Dujon (31.94 Test/23.15 ODI) averages over 30 runs in Tests. One has to go back over 50 years to find a full time West Indies wicketkeeper averaging over 40 in Test cricket.



Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - ketchim - 07-10-2016

Folks, it has nothing to do with averages on a # 8/10 Ranked squad.

Courtney Brown just wanna Bajan with the Gloves.

Trinidad should just return dem stolen Flying Fish  :-[


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - Mail - 07-10-2016

One van understand Ramdin's disappointment, especially after a pretty good ODI series, but he shou,d have responded without a response.


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - dillinger10 - 07-10-2016

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Ramdin’s batting average though is better than quite a number of his recent predecessors who are highly respected and some even deemed legends of the game including Deryck Murray (22.90 Test/24.50 ODI), Ridley Jacobs (28.31 Test/23.31 ODI), Junior Murray (22.39 Test/22.60 ODI) and David Williams (13.44 Test/9.18 ODI). Only Jeffrey Dujon (31.94 Test/23.15 ODI) averages over 30 runs in Tests. One has to go back over 50 years to find a full time West Indies wicketkeeper averaging over 40 in Test cricket.
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Runs scored today aren't the same as runs scored in the 70s/80s/90s.

In the 1970s, wicketkeepers had a collective average of 27.29. In the 1980s, this dipped to 23.63, before increasing to 27.28 in the 1990s, and 31.81 in the 2000s.

Since Ramdin made his debut, wicketkeepers have a collective average of 33.13. Ramdin's career Test average is 25.87. To put things into perspective, since Ramdin made his debut, the only wicketkeeper (min 20 matches played) with a lower average is Adrian Akmal (24.62).

The disparity between Ramdin's numbers and the numbers of the average wicketkeeper in Test matches have grown even further over the last 2 years - wicketkeepers have averaged 34.12. Ramdin has averaged 19.36.


Re: Ramdin Only Has Himself To Blame - chairman - 07-11-2016

ramdin was back for TNT and helped win the game against Guyana.