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Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/25/chinas-increasing-african-presence/ Quote:by CHARLES R. LARSON Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:French estimates that there are currently at least a million Chinese living in sub-Saharan Africa and says that may be a conservative figure. Several countries alone (Zambia, Tanzania, and Mozambique) have a hundred thousand each. Others have fairly decent sized enclaves or Chinese towns, often of ten thousand people. Africans have said for years that the Chinese isolate themselves, that they don’t integrate, though French shows that there are numerous exceptions to that, especially when Chinese males have married African women and started families. There is little question, however, that often these enclaves have sprung up because in many places Chinese companies have brought their own workers to complete a specific project. Again, that is not the focus of French’s study. Instead, he tracked down individual Chinese (mostly men but also a few women) typically living in remote areas of the continent who, in some countries, have become petty shopkeepers much like the Lebanese and the Indians before them. And many of these individuals, through hard work, have become enormously successful, starting modestly and slowing growing their businesses into large agricultural or industrial success stories. Some are fabulously wealthy. Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:Sadly, too many of them are condescending, outright racists. They typically arrive with more education than the Africans around them and a determination to work very hard. By contrast, they consider the locals more interested in having a good time than working and building up a business or a farm. They consider the Africans stupid and have no compunction of taking advantage of them. Here’s the observation of a man in Mozambique, which pretty much sums up the entire perspective: “I didn’t think they [the Africans] were so clever, not so intelligent, and I was looking for an opportunity based on my own capabilities. Can you imagine if I had gone to America or to Germany first? The people in those fucking places are too smart. I wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. I don’t think I would have beaten them. So we had to find backward countries, poor countries that we can lead, places where we can do business, where we can manage things successfully. If it was the United States, with fucking intelligent Americans, how could we compete?†Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:Variations of that quotation appear throughout the book. A Chinese man in Senegal says of his hosts, “They just don’t learn.†Worse, he states that African politicians are mostly clueless. They can be taken advantage of in “noncompetitive deals…struck all the time between builders and local politicians.†In Liberia, another Chinese male says, “You couldn’t find ten competent people here.†Another, in Tanzania, refers to the Africans as “children.†We have seen this all before throughout the history of colonialism in Africa. Take advantage of those with lesser education, skills and worldview. Colonial greed—colonial thievery or whatever you want to call it—raped the African continent well before the recent influx of Chinese and yet, just like the Europeans in Africa, the Chinese have the audacity to refer to the Africans as the real crooks. A man in Namibia tells French, “Ninety percent of Africans are thieves.†Well, I can best that: One hundred percent of Chinese in Africa are thieves. Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:Yes, a few Africans are willing to defend the Chinese, hopeful that the infrastructure will be built up and, over time, the Africans will benefit. But by that time (far in the distant future) the continent’s natural resources may long have disappeared and the massive buildings and the roads constructed by the Chinese will long have crumbled. In many areas that French does not write about in his book, Botswana for example, that has already happened. And it is difficult to ignore this lament from an African in Mali: “We don’t like the Chinese…. We don’t want to be speaking Chinese someday.†Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:Money still talks—especially in Africa and Bullshit walks now in the pagers of counterpunch :-[ :-[ :-[ Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - May102014 - 07-26-2014 I read about this a few years ago. Typically when a country is seeking long term profit, they start slow with their plans. I wouldn't be surprise within 5 years if China has a significant presence on the continent of Africa. Remember they are also in negotiations with African leaders for these plans. Both parties will capitalize off such plans but I wonder if the high return in revenue will benefit the citizens in some of these African countries. Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-26-2014 Quote:Remember they are also in negotiations with African leaders for these plans. Both parties will capitalize off such plans but I wonder if the high return in revenue will benefit the citizens in some of these African countries. I try but I could never find anything in this word that was and is not associated with risk..especially when things happening between stronger and weaker. but we have a long tract record of what happened in dealing with europe and its american and israeli derivatives. there is no doubt at all what they are about and whet they do when it comes to black people the real problem in africa dealing with china is the african elite. there has never been a more traitorous MF'ing elite ever, capable of doing any negative thing possible. China may wont to do right while they are looking to sell the continent and make bobol..corruption. popular governments by and for the people would be immensely good for the continent right about now. instead all the governments are of the african elites and totally corrupt for that reason Re: Oh Jesus Crise! What is This..... - mapoui - 07-27-2014 anyhow the point of my cry or groan was the propaganda the article is... the white west is losing out to the chinese and Russians so they have resorted to the works kind of yellow peril propaganda journalism. Disgusting! and for Counterpunch to publish such garbage establishes how low that internet 'wrag' has fallen since the death of its founder... Alexander Cockburn |