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What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - mapoui - 05-08-2014
http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2014/content/current/story/742861.html
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - chairman - 05-08-2014
maps thats a heavy accusation. whose rights did shastri deny?
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - bala24 - 05-08-2014
Where in that article is anything pertinent or even remotely close to racism.I don't understand.!!
That bloody incident needed a strict action which shastri stepped up and gave them.This is a black mark on cricket and all these need to be curbed with an iron hand.
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - mapoui - 05-09-2014
well..Starc is the one who is violent, initiatory. Pollard is moving away so he should have stopped, not delivered the ball. but he ran in and bowled the ball at Pollard looking to hit him
if Pollard got angry for that he is dam right. if you are pulling away you are not ready to face the ball. it was violent and dangerous to bowl the dam ball. Benches clear for that in baseball..everybody fighting
so how in the hell is Shastri calling Pollard violent here and not Starc..and fining him 75% and only 50 for Starc?
that is racist talk from Shastri as if black man is supposed to be violent and must be restrained. STARC WAS THE FREAKING ONE!!!! THE ISSUE IS STARC AND POLLARD NOT POLLARD AND STARC.
WHAT THE HELL IS SHASTRI GOING TO HELL ON ABOUT. i SEE THE ISSUE HERE. STARC IS THE ONE NOT POLLARD.
IF SHASTRI HAD BEEN CONSIDERING THE 2 EQUALLY HE COULD NEVER BE DESCRIBING POLLARD AS HE HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THIS LINK..AND DISPROPORTIONATELY PENALIZING THEM
RIDICULOUS!
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Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - Mail - 05-09-2014
Apropos the incident.
Both men are culpable. It is infantile to suggest one started it and the other reacted. It is mature, if one starts it for the other to rise above it and let the referee deal with the matter.
However this is how I see it. Starc bounced Pollard who dealt with the delivery poorly and Starc had a few words to say. Pollard sent him away and he went away. Matter over.
As Starc was about to deliver Pollard walked away for no reason at all. I believe when the bowler is ready, the batsman has to be ready unless there is good reason.
I would say Starc followed him instinctively. Pollard then behaved like a buffoon. He came out looking worse by his over the top aggression.
I will now look at what Ravi had to say that he has been accused of being racist.
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - ramesh - 05-09-2014
[quote author=Mail link=topic=89518.msg562767#msg562767 date=1399631149]
Apropos the incident.
Both men are culpable. It is infantile to suggest one started it and the other reacted. It is mature, if one starts it for the other to rise above it and let the referee deal with the matter.
However this is how I see it. Starc bounced Pollard who dealt with the delivery poorly and Starc had a few words to say. Pollard sent him away and he went away. Matter over.
As Starc was about to deliver Pollard walked away for no reason at all. I believe when the bowler is ready, the batsman has to be ready unless there is good reason.
I would say Starc followed him instinctively. Pollard then behaved like a buffoon. He came out looking worse by his over the top aggression.
I will now look at what Ravi had to say that he has been accused of being racist.
[/quote] Why am I not surprised that you will blame the black man and give the white man a free pass?
Any objective person would see that Starc is 100% in the wrong
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - Mail - 05-09-2014
Ramesh,
If you follow my points and refute with your argument then I can respond. In the absence of that I am unable to comment.
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Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - bala24 - 05-09-2014
[quote author=ramesh link=topic=89518.msg562768#msg562768 date=1399632018]
Why am I not surprised that you will blame the black man and give the white man a free pass?
Any objective person would see that Starc is 100% in the wrong
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You need to get to the root of this to understand.There is no such thing as black man and white man concept.If shastri had even shown a fraction of that in the IPL,the news channels would have been fuming with it now. Okies...that apart,a bowler is on the verge of completion of his bowling stride and all u do is back off...?? I am not saying he is right here,but the offence level differs.
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - Mail - 05-09-2014
MAPPIPPEE,
Having read that article, I cannot find anything remotely racist, unless you can point it out.
What I got from the article was his abhorrence at the incident and what is norm in the game these days.
Pollard for one is not a shrinking violet on the field of play always having words for most.
Re: What The Hell is This! Is Ravi Shahstri a Blasted Racist! - mapoui - 05-09-2014
I tried to be objective while all I see on the other side is subjectivity....
one cannot speak in terms of Pollards violence and not speak of the same relative to Starc's behaviour. what is violence? what is initiatory?
violence comes in all forms. you tal;k about Pollards response as over the top and and that it was incumbent on him to take Starcs behaviour in civility.
well there is a prior point at which such behaviour should have prevailed. ready or not Pollard walked away from his wicket. the bowler shoud have stopped as a matter of courtesy and civility..the same behaviour you demand from Pollard..save Starc should behave displayed that behaviour earlier. he did not and you refuse to hold Starc to incivility and extreme violence by bowling a ball at an unready batsman whether he was right or wrong. a fast ball that could have serioulsy harmed Pollard.
that is high animalism, cannibalistic behaviour you refuse to hold Starc accountable for..high violence.. while you do so hold Pollard for his reaction which was much less than Starc from start to finish.
and so does racist Shastri talking about how Pollards behaviour bordered on the violent. but Pollard hit no one. that was Starc all the way who used the ball as a weapon.. and to the end was inviting Pollard to come to his end for a fight. Starc got clean away with all of that
Starc displayed continuous riotous behaviour. he never stopped, was never repentant..AND HE GETS AWAY WITH A 50% FINE..WHILE POLLARD LOSES A75% ALTHOUGH EH DID NOT START NUTTEN, HIT NO ONE, WAS MERELY REACTIVE WHEN STARC WENT TOO FAR.
THERE IS WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A LAW SUIT HERE