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Re: South Africa penalised - ketchim - 10-28-2013
[quote author=Gina145 link=topic=84484.msg527584#msg527584 date=1382972900]
I also try to avoid any discussions here that involved allegations of racism.
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why :-\ ........it is alive and well and being practiced in South africa and the West Indies.
In our case it is AfroCaribbean entitlement selection !
in your case it is Quota selection .
do not sweep in under the rug ....Lets expose the nonsense !
Re: South Africa penalised - mapoui - 10-28-2013
Quote:It leaves a big question mark on South Africa's credibility."
sweet ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::! Saffie Credibility! Deh nevah had any of that as far as I am concerned
di'ze a laffing matter deh...Saffie credibility. an Oxymoron! like Oz credibility..or english fuh dat matter.
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Re: South Africa penalised - Mail - 10-28-2013
[quote author=Kyle link=topic=84484.msg527488#msg527488 date=1382929387]
a. We don't know the specifics of the plea. So I would not make assumptions to what he pleaded exactly, except that it's something enough to deem him to get some degree of punishment, i.e. "guilty".
b. Is pleading worse? I mean if I keep denying plausible ball tampering then should I get away with less punishment or get severe punishment?
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Plea of not Kylester, consistency is required.
I know the way I was bought up if you admit guilt the punishment is more lenient. It is something we do quite well not always meaning it, as adults, so we get away.
Specifics or not it was blatantly obvious and the admission of guilt demonstrates intent and we need to be consistent. At least the PCB has made representations to the ICC.
I would suggest if it was an Indian they would be runny shy.
Re: South Africa penalised - Mail - 10-28-2013
[quote author=Gina145 link=topic=84484.msg527584#msg527584 date=1382972900]
I already said that I was unable to see the match, so I missed the whole incident. I also try to avoid any discussions here that involved allegations of racism.
I find the whole thing shocking, but Faf du Plessis has apparently admitted that he was guilty of ball tampering. However I don't know enough about the incident to comment on his punishment.
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Gina,
That is cop out but I respect your reluctance in discussions of racism.
I think all of us saw the same clips and I did not see any of the match.
However Faf admitted guilt and I believe what people are talking about is consistency of treatment and I have to say there si no consistency.
In my view that is sad and unappreciated.
Re: South Africa penalised - chairman - 10-28-2013
Gina,
no matter how we hide from racism it wont go away
Re: South Africa penalised - Mail - 10-28-2013
But she has the[quote author=The Chairman link=topic=84484.msg527643#msg527643 date=1382978970]
Gina,
no matter how we hide from racism it wont go away [/quote]
True but she has the right not to be drawn into a discussion on race.
However that aside, the incident with Faf clearly shows a disparity in ICC application of the rules and I am not saying that is racially motivated but the more I examine all the cases and hear peoples' views you cannot help but wonder.
My issue is consistency without bringing anything else into it.
Re: South Africa penalised - chairman - 10-28-2013
yes mail. i respect her right.
Justice for ramdin.
Re: South Africa penalised - chairman - 12-06-2016
Du Plessis appeal hearing on December 19
Re: South Africa penalised - chairman - 12-07-2016
The MCC confirm they will not recommend changes to the ball tampering law. Can only mean those caught with mints will continue to be charged