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Re: HOLDER TO LEAD TEST TEAM FOR INDIAN TOUR - Mail - 07-13-2016
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=105212.msg702533#msg702533 date=1468425464]
From a bowling perspective, I think he is a solid fourth seamer. Someone that can hold an end up. He doesn't go for a lot of runs, but at the same time, isn't particularly menacing or likely to be a strike bowler. Trouble is, he is being used as the new ball bowler or as the first change.
Is his batting and/or captaincy good enough to overcome his deficiencies with the ball, and allow him to be the first choice all-rounder?
I'm not sure you can play both Brathwaite and Holder in the same team. They are both too similar. For me, it's an either or. I think you can make a good argument that Brathwaite has the higher ceiling and has put up better fist-class numbers.
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I agree on Brathers and Holder and in fact I think Brathers is a bit undercooked just now to make attest debut.
The team against India seems quite unbalanced with little specialist spin which means Bishoo, will once again, be overbowled.
I do not think it is a very good team but interested to see how they do but as you said, Holder as an opening bowler suggests a weak attack, much like Ramdin batting at 5.
Re: HOLDER TO LEAD TEST TEAM FOR INDIAN TOUR - Barbosa - 07-14-2016
How can one just look at averages and not look at current performances. Browne is contradicting himself because Samuels has a 33 career average which is below poor for a front line batsman. My question is why wasn't he dropped.
Re: HOLDER TO LEAD TEST TEAM FOR INDIAN TOUR - dillinger10 - 07-21-2016
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=105212.msg702533#msg702533 date=1468425464]
From a bowling perspective, I think he is a solid fourth seamer. Someone that can hold an end up. He doesn't go for a lot of runs, but at the same time, isn't particularly menacing or likely to be a strike bowler. Trouble is, he is being used as the new ball bowler or as the first change.
Is his batting and/or captaincy good enough to overcome his deficiencies with the ball, and allow him to be the first choice all-rounder?
I'm not sure you can play both Brathwaite and Holder in the same team. They are both too similar. For me, it's an either or. I think you can make a good argument that Brathwaite has the higher ceiling and has put up better fist-class numbers.
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Trini posed the very same question in the shoutbox today. Can Brathwaite and Holder play in the same side?
Re: HOLDER TO LEAD TEST TEAM FOR INDIAN TOUR - ketchim - 07-21-2016
Yes. Sammy and Bravo did.
Sammy and Holder also.
Sammy now have a stadium named after him.
Re: HOLDER TO LEAD TEST TEAM FOR INDIAN TOUR - Mail - 07-21-2016
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=105212.msg704250#msg704250 date=1469136658]
Trini posed the very same question in the shoutbox today. Can Brathwaite and Holder play in the same side?
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No and it will soon be exposed because they are not good enough. Holder's main game as a bowler has gone backwards, if he has a flat pitch he will do ok (like most of us) as a batsman.
CB? The boy has not had time to develop, an abject failure in the IPL so you promote him to the test team of useless all rounders...
Unproven but I am sure we wish them well.