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Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - ketchim - 12-18-2013
The jukebox was playing “Paul your mother comeâ€
I know this tune though ! ;D
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
Quote:Never came across this Trini 'slanguage' before ..... Tenks !!!
oh god! it have so much I only now begin. and I doh know all...not at ta'll.
look here Trinidad was Spang/french from the start.. very small pop up until the 18-teenth C, when the French revo gave a spurt to the pop.
but look what that spurt was...FRENCH MULATTO. then 8 years later the arrival of Ralph Abercromby brought an english/slave imprint on the Spang/French. and less we forget there was the original Amerindian that mus' account for something..some level of input however small.
so although by the 19-fifties african was the dominant cultural strain Titty never quite seemed fully african.
the French mulatto imprint on Titty is a very powerful one dating all the way back to the French beginnings under the spanish that grew from the 1789 'invasion' ....
brown skin people were and are very powerful element in the Trinidad reality.
I used to wonder about that..the strength of mulattos in Titty. they weren't afraid of anything and moved with a social confidence that did not belie their numbers. of course they had money... their chief financial power base the CLICO.
a name like Duprey has always meant power in Titty. and there has been much French Creole diffusion back into the black population. one can locate some of that blood in the names of black people..especially when their skin tones shade to the brown.
then from Abercromby and the slaves from 1797.....43 years later we have 'Indian Arrival' and Titty off to the races.
then there were/are 'Pottogee' who also made strong input. also Syrian Maronite Christians and Indian Muslims
and of course the French Creoles commanded jobs first in the economy. it used to sooprise me all the time to go to businesses like Lever Bros in Trinidad...in Champs Fleurs in particula...walk into the offices and be faced by only brown skin people..mostly lots of absolutely beautiful women you never really saw on the streets. and of course Champs Fleurs was an original mulatto centre in Trinidad.
but those Frenchies had a defining influence on Titty culture giving Carnival especially.
CANBOULAY IS THE BURNING CANE THE SLAVES AND THEIR DERIVATIVES USE TO LIGHT THE WAY ON CARNIVAL NIGHTS AND DARK HOURS MONDAY MORNING...CANE FLAMBEAU.
The english governor ban them but by that time Canboulay came to signify african carnival which was a thing segregated from the uppity carnival of the French creoles
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
[size=18pt]canboulay...burning cane.. is literally 'old time carnival'...the carnival of segregated black people in the 19 teeth C...early 20 C[/size]
Rudder celebrates it in calypso opera by going way back to the dress of the 19 C, although he sings about the Diamond Horseshue Club that is closer to our time.
but he captures the bacchanal in black life cause by the oppressive Trinidad society. that is how we survived. those people display the true hardiness of 'NEGROs under the greatest social pressure.
'there is something in that that demonstrates how we survived'
that is what attracted so many trinnys when they heard Rudder's song. they hear the sound of survival in it
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - ketchim - 12-18-2013
Now i unnastan the Confusion in Trinidad :
A SPANISH Colony populated with FRENCH afros from the caribbean.
with ENGLISH vincentians et cetera !
dddaaaammmm.....how de hell did they communicate ....Sign language
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
confusion ::confused::
dat is wat it is......... ::confused::
Interesting. it works
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
Paul Keens Douglas and "Dark Night!"
note the women who came on board in Grenada going to Trinidad and paid good solid money. and later it turn into kakapool.
so kakapool is not only to describe bad rum but almost anything that is of poor quality or crap
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - ketchim - 12-18-2013
That strategy was used for Indentureds in Guyana !
Hindi ,urdu and other tribal Dialects were mixed together on the same plantation !
so they could NOT communicate for a rebellion
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
what level of success did that achieve among Indos?
it did not stop Afro rebellion..although it may have led to constant betrayals of Afro rebellion.
you do know that Afro west indians have been the most rebellious slave people in history succeeding in ending slavery in Haiti...and measures of freedom won like the Yardy Maroons.
there was a major rebellion in Brasil in 1694 that led to the creation of a large black state within Brasil Called Palmyra. this state lasted for about 100 years and was eventually defeated by he Portuguese
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - ketchim - 12-18-2013
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what level of success did that achieve among Indos?
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The kids all went to Med School
Re: Kakapool Rum, Jamette and Canboulay - mapoui - 12-18-2013
Guyana still down however.
doctors apparently are not nation builders. they leave it to Ramotar and he cyar do it :
