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Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ramesh - 01-28-2015
[quote author=pattycake link=topic=95320.msg615087#msg615087 date=1422415888]
Then explain.
Tell me why you think Galaxies are there.
[/quote] In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth . Let this be the starting point in your query .
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - pattycake - 01-28-2015
[quote author=ramesh link=topic=95320.msg615092#msg615092 date=1422416684]
In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth . Let this be the starting point in your query .
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[size=14pt][b][size=14pt]Braaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!!! [/size][/size][/b] ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
I knew you was gonna say something stupid. ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
Now what does that have to do with the reason you think Galaxies are there? ::LOL::
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - pattycake - 01-28-2015
Okay Ram....
Let me try and put it another way...
What purpose do you think Galaxies serve?
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - pattycake - 01-28-2015
And what happened to Map? ::confused::
I like the way he just disappears from my replies to his questions. ::LOL::
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ketchim - 01-28-2015
Must be that carbolic soap you using :-[
[quote author=pattycake link=topic=95320.msg615100#msg615100 date=1422418050]
I like the way he just disappears from my replies to his questions.
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Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - mapoui - 01-28-2015
I have not disappeared. the thread is about religion pattacake and you have evolved too far out of line...you entered off line......
yet I tried to contribute yesterday but it seemed obvious I was not up to the standard. there are days like that when I am freaked and don't know much and don't know what to do. I am human a pretty poor one at dat. but even so you ignored my points about what the ethereal is how it exists, functions. so many points I raised you just ignored
what you speak is religion pattacake...RELIGION! WHAT YOU SAY REQUIRES BELIEF, CANNOT BE PROVED..CERTAINLY NOT BY YOU. NO MATTER HOW COHERENT WHAT YOU SAY APPEARS TO BE IT IS ABSTRACT AND NOT PROVABLE..BELIEF, FAITH.
AND AS SUCH IT IS BOUND TO LEAD ADHERENTS ASTRAY SOCIALLY TO THE TYPE OF SOCIAL REALITY PRODUCED BY ALL OTHER RELIGIONS...SOCIAL STRATIFICATION OF A HIERARCHICAL NATURE, A PRIESTHOOD AND EXPLOITATION, CRUSADES, WAR AND GENOCIDES, MISSIONARIES AND ON-GOING EMBEDDED ROUTINE DESTRUCTION OF CONQUERED PEOPLES
we have proved social and biological processes on earth and universally..an universal evolutionary process of which he earth is a part that directly contradicts you ethereal scheme. it requires no belief and faith..and all speculation is based on what has already been proved of existence...speculation about reality based on what has been proved so that we will learn soon enough what actually exists and on that proceed agaan to hypothesize and prove out.
only that natural process of keeps humanity sane and alive with chance of going on indefinitely..a process actually of response to our existential challenges of survival, that gives us our capability..technology...to deal in an on-going developmental manner with our existential challenges. we would not be here but for that movement despite the obstacles we put in our own by the jackass beliefs we develop..abstract nonsense that drives us crazy, off into justifications for our crimes..instead of finding the causes of our crimes eliminating them and coming into line with nature... maxing out our chances in existence
will religion die?
all abstractions not only will die... but must die.. to bring collective human focus directly onto the massive and eternally on-going question of survival in an evolutionary universe, an urgent and dire need at the moment or humanity..to wrench human focus off jackass abstract unprovable, killing, actually suicidal belief systems that lead nowhere but to the current global social quagmire we are in, at and on the lip of the cliff to oblivion
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ketchim - 01-28-2015
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95320.msg615152#msg615152 date=1422462528]
will religion die?
all abstractions not only will die... but must die..
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wishful thinking
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - mapoui - 01-28-2015
Quote:I like the way he just disappears from my replies to his questions.
what answers pattacake?
you have not explained what the ethereal is. you said it is electromagnetic but how?
you said we lose our bio matter and go to the galaxies which indeed are made up of plasma, created by and held in space and place by electric currents, which is the only force that can create magnetic fields. but that plasma is living matter, massive objects that took forever to build up, roiling and potentially very violent in its vortex, spinning mode that ejects plasma that become what we call supernova which in turn become galaxies in their own right. that is the way galaxies reproduce
so you have to explain an electrical mechanism by which humans in death shed bio matter and are collected electronically and proceeded to the galaxies for keeping... and returned to life on earth THROUGH random human sexuality?
again what is the ethereal?
if the ether is in the galaxies then the galaxies are well known..humans know what the galaxies are, how they came to be, how they expand and reproduce..plasma and electricity, a form of matter. there is no ethereal there.
when a human dies we see how bio matter is shed, how long it takes in a normal way. all manner of preservative treatment can be applied to a dead human body to preserve it for relatively long stretches of time by human standards. how does that affect the electrical soul..does it muck up the electrical mechanism by which electric souls are harvested to the ether ::confused:: what happens when a body is cremated ::confused::
I spoke about human sperm and its tadpole-like form. do you have an explanation for that....... ::confused::
and why is it ridiculous for humans to have evolved from apes? what makes humanity more special than apes?
as far as I can see ape origin is an upgrade for humanity from all angles. I posted a documentary last night on the Religion thread. no one looked at it. shame. that doc exposes a long running Canadian genocide..on-going now as we speak. they say its shameful but it is not. that behavior is par for the HUMAN course. all humans are like that, capable of that behavior. it is just a matter for the moment or current, of who got there first. from the break-up of ancient communal life into exploitative society, it has been war, plunder, genocide.... ever since.
have you ever seen apes behave like that pattacake ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::
I feel good when humans are compared to apes...as our evolutionary source. but I am afraid it is far worse than apes, from your perspective. if you took the time to look at human biological existence you will see where we come from. there is a biological principle of from the small to the larger. bacteria is the smallest life form..and the oldest. there is exponent of them more than us and we evolved in symbiosis with them. why?
HOW IN THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN PATTACAKE ::confused::
how is it that we ignore bacteria, have developed a healthy contempt for bacteria when without them we will die ::confused::
bacteria is in us and on us, in our bellies, eyes, nose, mouth, saliva, backsides..everywhere. life would stop without them. they are the first life forms...so why in the hell isn't that where we and all other life forms came from..evolved out of bacteria ::confused:: ::confused::
and there are great mechanisms by which that could have happened, in fact did happen! why is human sperm like a tadpole..because that is likely from an evolutionary phase in human development..amphibian..which is a stage the human zygote goes through on conception right through to mammal, human.
the reason why bacteria is so prevalent and dominant in life is because they did the work and are in everything as a result, keeping what they evolved alive. in our greed for money we have made some of them our enemies and they are coming back to eat us up. we must understand bacteria and learn to live with them as they live with us..keep us alive. we have introduced medicines ridiculously, willy nilly, without regard to how nature actually works, and have harmed ourselves very likely beyond repair. if we cant correct what we have done especially to bacteria we are toast.
that's a synopsis of how I see things pattacake...no abstractions necessary. tell us what the ethereal is pattacake, let us know how it works ::confused::
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - mapoui - 01-28-2015
Quote:wishful thinking
on your part for sure?
Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - pattycake - 01-28-2015
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95320.msg615152#msg615152 date=1422462528]
I have not disappeared. the thread is about religion pattacake and you have evolved too far out of line...you entered off line......
yet I tried to contribute yesterday but it seemed obvious I was not up to the standard. there are days like that when I am freaked and don't know much and don't know what to do. I am human a pretty poor one at dat. but even so you ignored my points about what the ethereal is how it exists, functions. so many points I raised you just ignored
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Well you actually asked Ketch about that Map. Not me.
But I did answer anyway and stated that the soul is captured and retained in a Galaxy.
And I'm sorry, but that has nothing to do with religion.