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Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Googley - 01-27-2015

Quote:Religion as we know it is elitist in concept and doctrinal structure which is absolute proof that it is man made

that is correct.  Afterall, who had Christ nailed to the cross?!!  it was the so called Church leaders! 

this is why chaps, that i have been saying the practices of religion has been bad and don't throw out the baby with the bath water!  Tongue




Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Googley - 01-27-2015

Quote:Religion was our first attempt (as a species) to explain phenomena which we did not yet undertand or know.  It was our first attempt at philosophy, morality, astronomy, medical care, etc.  This was at a time when we didn't know some of the basic facts about the natural world.  We didn't know we were living on a spherical planet.


no, actually religion is being proved to be right by the new discoveries each day!  It is Science which keep self correcting!  ::LOL::

I bet you $10 that the science you knew when you were in high school is much different today! 






Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Snoopster - 01-27-2015

[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95320.msg614935#msg614935 date=1422374399]


no, actually religion is being proved to be right by the new discoveries each day!  It is Science which keep self correcting!  ::LOL::

I bet you $10 that the science you knew when you were in high school is much different today! 

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How many times must I tell you guys one simple yet unalterable fact.  Religion starts with the proposition that it has all the answers - to everything.  Science starts with the opposite proposition and has developed a methodology to ensure (as much as possible) that both the evidence and conclusions are reliable, accurate and correct.  If the conclusions are incorrect, science wipes the slate and starts over.

Religion moves from conclusion to evidence.  Science moves from evidence to conclusions.

And I challenge you Googs to name me ONE, just ONE, phenomena which Religion supposedly got right and which science has "proven" subsequently.

As for your assertion that the science I knew in high school is different from the science I knew today.  Well, this is such a juvenile and ignorant statement it hardly calls for an answer (let alone a dignified answer) but I'll indulge you this one time.

The last time I checked the following scientific facts and conclusions are still the same as they were in the early 90's: the earth is still spherical; the earth orbits the sun; the Newtonian Laws of universal gravitation are still the same; the theory of evolution is still the best explanation for the millions of fossils of dinosaurs and other mammalian primates unearthed each year; insulin still works the same now and in the early 90's as it did in 1922 when it was discovered by Doctors Banting and Best and without which diabetes would still be a killer disease; the mapping of the human genome and genetics is still the same as it was in the early 90's; to name a few.

This is not to say or assert that science provides the final answer to anything or everything.  That is the conceited claim of religion which it makes without reservation.  Science merely asserts that it is able to provide the best answer to a given phenomena based on the observation and testing of the available evidence.  As such, science will always be a work in progress, continualing refining it's conclusions as the evidence calls for it to do so.







Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Snoopster - 01-27-2015

[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95320.msg614921#msg614921 date=1422373411]
that is correct.  Afterall, who had Christ nailed to the cross?!!  it was the so called Church leaders! 

this is why chaps, that i have been saying the practices of religion has been bad and don't throw out the baby with the bath water!  Tongue
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Where is the evidence for the existence of this "Christ"?  Where is the evidence of his alleged trial, conviction, and torture?  And no, the Bible is not evidence.  It was written, re-written, edited, re-edited, re-written again, hundreds and thousands of years after the life of its subject matter was supposed to have lived.   

Absent evidence of the foregoing, it is incumbent upon rational thinking beings to reject all of it in its entirety.

Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence
. Wink


Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ketchim - 01-27-2015

[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95320.msg614961#msg614961 date=1422383939]
It was written,re-written, edited, re-edited, re-written again, hundreds and thousands of years
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You miss the Cartoon where it show de Bible :

translated from original Latin or Sanskrit  Big Grin


Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Snoopster - 01-27-2015

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95320.msg614963#msg614963 date=1422384007]
What is this Babble ?  incoherent and nonsense from BIN Fool  ::LOL::


Spoiling a perfect Thread : 6 pages and a lotta posters involved !
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You should be thankful I've finally brought some proper and coherent arguments to a thread dedicated as it were to your crumbling faith in the words and teachings of an illiterate Arabian used carpet salesman cum con man
. Wink




Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ketchim - 01-27-2015

[quote author=Meseret link=topic=95320.msg613923#msg613923 date=1422031601]

Frankly, I see atheism as the new fad, you know like veganism, pants on the ground etc.
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PM bin fool  ::LOL::


Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Snoopster - 01-27-2015

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95320.msg614970#msg614970 date=1422384900]
PM bin fool  ::LOL::
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Says the man who believes in the plagiarized teachings of an illiterate merchant from the most backward part of the world and believes that this illiterate con man took a supersonic night flight from Arabia to Jerusalem on a white horse with wings. ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::


Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - ketchim - 01-27-2015

You no different than the stuff you Criticising !

You have Folks seeing you as a wannabe Cartoon character  ::LOL::


Re: Will religion ever disappear ? - Snoopster - 01-27-2015

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95320.msg614976#msg614976 date=1422385528]
You no different than the stuff you Criticising !

You have Folks seeing you as a wannabe Cartoon character  ::LOL::
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Which "folks"?  Most here are agreeing with my views on religion and its absurd propositions.

Even you are beginning to waiver.  Just look at this thread.  It is patently obvious that you're looking for affirmation and vindication of your religious faith from others who share it.  I'm only too happy to be the one to sow that seed of doubt
. Big Grin