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Re: That Fiscal Cliff - chairman - 12-31-2012
ALERT: Senate Democrats to hold a caucus meeting at 9:15p ET; Vice President Biden will attend - NBC
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - Kwami - 12-31-2012
What is more critical and most Americans are to dumb to understand is that a new farms bill is stalled in the congress . This means that products like milk and wheat will skyrocket because what americans dont know is that in this nation of free enterprise and unfettered capitalism subsides its agriculture and farming and the price that you pay in the stores are artificial.
When they go over the cliff these subsidies will be removed and a seperate farms bill that is stuck in the republican controlled house would have restored the subsidies
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - chairman - 12-31-2012
BREAKING: Senate Democratic aide: White House and GOP reach deal on fiscal cliff.
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - Kwami - 12-31-2012
[quote author=The Chairman link=topic=73562.msg469699#msg469699 date=1357005591]
BREAKING: Senate Democratic aide: White House and GOP reach deal on fiscal cliff.
[/quote] for 2 years they could not reach deal and on the eve of disaster a deal is reached .
I will bet that the 600billion a year military would be hardly touched but I guarantee that there are deep cuts to medicaid and medicare
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - chairman - 01-01-2013
"The fiscal cliff hanger becomes a journey over the fiscal mountains." What comes after the deal. http://wapo.st/ZQKKbq
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - mapoui - 01-01-2013
from what I see the fiscal cliff is nonsense so I stopped paying attention...
there is one easy, true, quick and simple, and breath-takingly effective way to solve the economic situation globally, that would restore global prosperity in at max 3 months, and set the world up for long forward economic movement, peace and development:
[size=24pt]kill debt based banking..kill every central bank in the world that is not owned and controlled by its own government in behalf of the people, break up all the big banks, destroy them, charge and arrest all the bankers and jail them if found guilty of the crimes they are charged with: THE MANIPULATION OF ECONOMIES TO THE DETRIMENT OF ORDINARY PEOPLE, THE CAUSING OF WAR EVERYWHERE FOR PROFIT, PONZI SCHEMES THAT RESULTED IN BUBBLES THAT FLEECED ECONOMIES..IN SHORT HUGE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. and if they are found guility throw the keys away, confiscating all their wealth at the same time[/size]
kill all that, end debt based government spending, write off all the debts...credit cards, schools loans and mortgages... give people their homes outright..but not commercial mortgages. commercial mortgages must be taken over by the state in the general confiscation of the wealth of the criminal banksters... who would be in jail if not executed for their criminality.
kill all government debt to the banksters. those loans are fraud and does not have to be repaid. government may have to repay legit loans raised by legal promissory notes sold to regular people..and to foreign governments.
and banking must be reformed into a service for the people..period. that's it. if there are to be loans again in society then that activity must be strictly controlled. some 1 or 2% at max for loans. and no loans for mega projects. mo meed for that.
no frigging compound interest! eliminate that dragon for ever.
if the previous is done then all the financial problems are over, no more debts. when government debt is repaid to ordinary folk and legit forrin loans...government can revert to its financial right granted by their people, of printing and spending the national script in the interest of the people in the nation, without debt/interest charges attached.
that's right..prosperity is that simple. and when no central bank owned by banksters have control of all the money, bribing the politics and taking over the governments, then the politicians would be no longer the most corrupt social class, selling the nations down every river there is.
RIGHT NOW LIFE IS ORGANIZED TOTALLY INTO A SHAPE AND FORM DESIGNED BY THE BANKERS TO FLEECE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. WE ARE ALL SLAVES AND WE DON'T KNOW IT. BY THE TIME WE WAKE UP IT WILL BE TOO LATE. IT WOULD BE BRAVE NEW WORLD.
screw fiscal cliff. its all obama smoke and mirros that surely hides a deception that would result in the deepenig of the peoples enslavement. obama is a dog, a liar, a crminal of the very greatest proportion, currently carrying out a massive job of deceiving the people for the elites. and the jackass slaves love him for it. if the people do not rise up and clean up society then the looming brave new world for the people, would be fully deserved
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - mapoui - 01-01-2013
once the fraudulent banking system is killed, debt based spending eliminated, then inflation as a constant factor of economic activity would be eliminated. value would be restored to money. that means earnings would once again meet all needs for working people. one would be able to save for rainy days, buy a home and pay for it out of salary. one would be able to meet all needs out of salary including health costs if any.
governments would be able to make health, education and other services essential to the national development free
also government, with its restoration of spending without debt would be able to eliminate income taxes giving further scope to salary as a major means by which people survive and prosper.
government would also be able to cut down the bureaucracies, fire people but set up the means for them to create jobs for themselves and expand the domestic development..while still making the government services more efficient if much more cost effective
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - chairman - 01-01-2013
House Democratic caucus will meet at 12:15 p.m. and VP Joe Biden will attend
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - chairman - 01-01-2013
It seems that under the fiscal deal Warren Buffett will continue to pay a lower tax rate than his secretary
Re: That Fiscal Cliff - mapoui - 01-01-2013
[quote author=The Chairman link=topic=73562.msg469742#msg469742 date=1357059002]
House Democratic caucus will meet at 12:15 p.m. and VP Joe Biden will attend
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pantomime...di'ze all dat is. I refuse to pay attention. I will not waste my time with all their crap any longer. the only time I will look up again is when the people smarten up and move collectively to end all this nonsense.