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YKetchim...LOOK CLOSELY WHAT WE NEED...VILLAGE UPWARDS OWNED BANKS

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5 days 17 hours ago #380832 by mapoui
I have been expecting too much from you..Its my fault! I have not been as tight and as efficient as I ought to have been with you so far. no more!

you are really my enemy... as in enemy of the people, enemy of the principles of social organization that benefits the people... and all for capitalism and hierarchical society at the same time.

you are for the stock market and I have been doing some recent research. the stock market actually failed more than 10 years ago when Clinton and Obama began and continued their government program of 'Quantitative Easing'

in fact capitalism died like 12-15 years ago so the american government nationalized capitalism..took over the failure and put it on the peoples books and then opened up the printing presses and flooded the capitalist with free money to continue the system.

but the money is helicopter money, useless money, backed by nutten. Clinton/Obama shud have nationalized the economy in the name and interest of the people for the people. that is how it was normally done: businesses failed the government nationalized them the government, stabilized them, phased then out..at times even gave them back to the old owners etc. but now wall street failed, all the banks failed and the government took over all that debt and put it on the peoples tab..all of it. then put liquidity into their hands..refinanced them on the spot so they could continue their capitalist failure

look at them nuh! they bad talk socialism, the peoples interest, the government! PRIVITIZATION IS ALL..THE BEST WAY TO GO..THE WAY THAT SAILS ALL BOATS, FIXES ALL PROBLEMS. GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION IS BAD.. CAPITALISM MUST BE FREE OF REGULATION TO MEET ALL THE NEEDS OF THE ECONOMY, TO PROVIDE JOBS ETC.

SO THEY GOT ALL THE FREEDOM AND THE ROBBED THE ECONOMY BLIND AND BROKE IT TOTALLY. THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN BLOWN UP RIGHT NOW! IF THE GOVERNMENT..IF CLINTON AND OBAMA DID NOT INTERVENE ON BEHALF OF THE SYSTEM THERE WOULD BE NO ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW IS THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT NOT PRIVATE BUSINESS.

THE CAPITALIST WOULD BE NOWHERE RIGHT NOW WERE IT NOT FOR THE GOVERNMENT. BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT HAVE MERGED AGAINST THE PEOPLE. THE CAPITALIST HAVE TAKEN OVER THE GOVERNMENT, INVADED THE PEOPLES WORLD BY TAKING OVER THE GOVERNMENT. CLINTON OBAMA FACILITATED THAT

AND LOOK AT KETCHIM WITH HIS CAPITALISM ACT DANCING ON THE HEAD OF A PIN. KETCHIM SKUNT GO SLIP JESS NOW AND THE PIN GO CHOOK HIM IN HE RARSE.

I love this! I thought the collapse had jess happened., right here and now with the oil kerfuffle. no no no! it happened more than ten years ago. deh are collapsed now! and it is the capture of the peoples purse that has kept them going for these past 12-15 years.

no wonder the the Chinese and the Russians have been pussy footing around america..especially the Chinese. they are doing what I doh know. I doh know if they are afraid of pushing america over. but they know the score. deh know the USA is dead in the wartuh.

but it is ketchim who is the capitalist impse here and now with his nonsense above.

he ketchim! it is not me who need the goat..is allyuh...you and yuh broken capitalist fren an dem. jess now the ship will sink to reveal allyuh naked and we with no towel to dry allyuh 'kin.

doh look to me. I have no towel fuh allyuh.

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5 days 17 hours ago #380833 by mapoui
its time fuh ketchim skunt to wake to eff up and stop chatting all the shit he chats nowadays.

if ketchim is capitalist then he shud come out as capitalist and see what he can do for his system out in the open. that way he will be speaking his mind, speaking his best, honest and straight up in defense of what he believes in

right now he chats shit hiding himself and taking pot shots at me from behind what he thinks is cover. its no cover at all. he is jess making an impse of himself

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5 days 16 hours ago #380835 by mapoui

Hudson fullo sh!t ! I can criticise Commercial Banks as well until the cows come home

there is NO proposal he can make that will replace it

IN spite of their share value predicated on Lender FEES ~ (which he doesn't even know )

Your Co-Op has already been tried as well and scored a big F

Bitcoin will never make it so the Central Bank will remain

I would suggest Hudson promote the old days of BARTER :

no currency required : I give you 1 goat and in return you give me your Veggies you planted :

plus a night with yuh wife : see how quick paper money will disappear along with the Jews !


Bitcoin will never make it so the Central Bank will remain

what the hell is ketchim talking about! that is not about the point of a central bank at all!
the central is the government's instrument of control of the economy and use of the national currency of the people.

what they international bankers have been able to do by control of coercive military, police and intelligence forces is to take over all the central banks in the world and privatize them...all save the Chinese, Russian, Iranian, Cuban, Venezuela.

there are 2 key facts about that: now that the central banks is owned by private bankers then they also own the peoples currency. therefore any use of that currency now is charged interest rates by the private bankers. that is one way how the people now have national debt.

with the government in charge of the peoples bank when the government prints the national currency and uses it in the interest of the nation they have to pay no interest on it. its the peoples money and they do not have to pay interest on their own money. but when the bank is taken over by the foreign bankers they make the people pay interest on their own money

Secondly the foreign bankers can print up the peoples money for their own purposes and put whatever amount it is on the peoples tab. that too becomes the peoples debt paid to the foreign bankers.

and what do the foreign bankers do with the peoples money they print up for their own use..to buy out the best parts of the country for themselves..to start up local big business or buy up whats there..to invest in the production of raw resources to export out of the country

that is the point of it all..to make money with no investment..as is happening in Guyana right now. I will bet any money at all that the money to develop Guyanese oil is coming from Guyanese themselves and they don't know.
the Guyanan central bank owned by international bankers are printing up Guyanese money, giving it to the oil people to pay for that oil development, the profits from which they are going to loot totally..just as they are looting the rest of Guyana right now.

it is the same way they looted Trinidad and are looting it still right now..the way they loot most countries in the world. so what are Guyanese fighting for?

the Guyanese people are fighting for nutten at all. there is nothing in it for them..absolutely nutten..now or ever. the Guyana elites are fighting for position at the feeding trough. it could not happen without them selling out to the international bankers and oil companies....the Tate and Lyles of the world. if they all led the people properly they would change that situation the people are in. but they sold out and now it is who have the levers of power can get closer to the bribe spigot that fills up the political pockets

if he loses Granger would be at the end of the table will get very little if any at all. Jagdoe and dem go look to take it all. and so we have a huge political fight.

the people feel deh have an interest in that fight but they have none at all. there will never be an advantage in their for them, the people.. unless they move and take over the country and place the peoples interest first. the politicians wont do that! ..never will!

anyway that's the way it goes. ketchim is talking a lot of nonsense period. he does not have a clue whats going on and doh I explained this before he never took it seriously...nor go do some research to discover if what i say is valid or not

what the hell does bitcoin have to do with any dam thing at all? weh bit coin come from in this talk. it have nutten to do with this talk. it does not matter what the currency is..it cud be toilet paper. the fact is who owns it and controls its use. that's the point.

and the forriner controls 90% of all those central banks in the world for the very reason I explained it..with such control they can and have ripped off the entire planet..and continue to do so as we speak but times are a changing. people with the exception of ketchim, are smartening up and demanding change from their politicians

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5 days 15 hours ago #380836 by mapoui
Your Co-Op has already been tried as well and scored a big F

where was it tried and failed..who gave it the F..by what standard was that F allocated.
who was the judge...
who tried the CO-Op..and how did they try it?
who was the analyst who judge that effort a failure and why..where is the report!

I asked a lot of questions before on this very issue...no answers!

I now precisely why the CO OP failed..that is was not a proper effort and that there was no real intent by those who tired it to to stand up to the enemies of such efforts

the people did not understand coop..did not understand any nationalist idea behind such movement..and the forriner behind the opposition to Co-Op would have had the whole Guyana Bureaucracy on their side sabotaging the Co-Op through the country..and the people had no corresponding nationalist ideology in which the COOP was the major factor taking them forward, meeting the peoples need on all level

when you are doing something like that you have to prepare the people for the effort..you have to give them ideology and allow them real freedom in movement do do what is necessary. you are going to have to fight the enemies of the peoples nationalism seriously..not joking. so when the people move and the bureaucracy sabotage you have to attack the bureau..the government structure itself, fire people, smash and burn and reform in the way that serves the people and the new way

that is why you have to start those things small, quiet, demonstrative if it works to other regions. you select a location most conducive to that kind of effort and start them up with all the support they need to make it work and you learn from that effort. if it works you spread it from that location..using the demonstrative effect of the initial success to draw the people to the effort

when people understand the ideology behind it, accept it, see it can word they become equipped to fight for it..they see their interest in it. and when all its enemies see all of that in it they know deh cyar win, or got to get stronger, or align themselves with foreign forces opposed to you in order to beat the effort

you keep going on with all your nonsense as if these things happen a vaccum and they fail on their own because they are not efficacious and have no intrinsic value. that s not the case at all. the case is that there is a dominant at system that is opposed to all of these efforts..the people are convinced of a lot of things opposed to their best interest. there are all sorts of factors that must be calibrated in decisions on all efforts and they must all be right for things to work as we want them to.

that is why there must be analysis to discover what has happened, what mistakes we were made and how to correct them..all the time. as we go along.. we never know all that's involved so we must be opened minded, watchful to learn all we need as we go win in the end

you keep talking nonsense for what reason..what reason? it is either capitalism ..or racism..or a combination of both. you don't like nig nogs! that's clear as day. and I can see that you interest and position in the Guyana issue. that does not bother me at all. what does bother me is that such as you operate without the reality of the control of Guyana by outside forces and the true nature of the political game

me..I am always for the people to collectivize and go out and toss the government and all the political parties and all the anti nationalist forces in the country..the forrin bankers-take back the central bank..the most important act of all. and when they do than then get down to the divides between the people.. class and race..resolve those and start running th country in everybody's interest

the people on the spot in a situation like that with all the divisive political parties smashed and chased out, can compromise in effort to live together successfully.

taking back the country that's the key ketchim..take it back and run it fuh Guyanese. that is what I doh hear and see o this board here. an I know that that is the issue and when all settle dong that is what the people dong there would be concerned about..especially if they get up and take ovah. as a result I think everybody here off track..and all they concerned abut doh really matter.

truth is all... and I see a man like ketchim totally out of sync with the Guyana whole reality..so it doh really mater what he say here

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5 days 15 hours ago #380837 by mapoui

Hudson fullo sh!t ! I can criticise Commercial Banks as well until the cows come home

there is NO proposal he can make that will replace it


don't you see you are a mad man..a man totally out of syn with reality. you have no ability to criticize Hudson when it come so. look the man prove he case right there already.

but that is not the point yuh know..from your angle. the question is what interest of yours do the commercial banks serve?

what benefit is there for you in the function and existence of commercial banks of yours do the commercial banks serve that cannot be met by other forms of financial services set up on different principles of functioning.

you defending commercial banks..why..what in the hell for? there is nothing in there for you.

and what is worse they are set up, owned and totally, controlled and run by the sworn to death enemies of such as you..brown skin and Muslim.

all the services needed by commercial banks used to me met faithfully and properly by the government especially through the post office bank. the commercial banks killed that in america. the commercial banks killed he post office bank and all other services that worked with ordinary people..destroyed the interest of ordinary people and so concentrated wealth in every society..wealth the owners of the commercial banks hold

the commercial banks..indeed all banks which are the same everywhere in the world regardless of the myriad trade names they operate under..work for the rich..and unless ketchim is rich he is under the commercial tutelage of the commercial banks..all banks.

ketchim makes no sens at all. he cannot even think in his apparent own best interest. yet I don't know the man and have no idea who he really is. but he has really pissed me off with all this inane talk here that serves no useful purpose at all

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5 days 5 hours ago #380838 by ketchim

mapoui wrote: me..I am always for the people to collectivize and go out and toss the government and all the political parties and all the anti nationalist forces in the country..the forrin bankers-take back the central bank..

You are so cliche !

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5 days 5 hours ago - 5 days 5 hours ago #380839 by ketchim

mapoui wrote: look the man prove he case right there already.

I SAID HE MADE NO MENTION OF BANK FEES : the singular most important issue to shareholders
that make purchasing them and keeping high ~ even during Covid !
he just rave and rant ....I have no time for Hudson : he is out to lunch
and regurgitating cliches ~
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5 days 4 hours ago #380841 by mapoui
wat difference does that make..none at all. we know the story. we go kill a man if he make a mistake?

we know what Hudson know..he is full of qualifications, awards all over the place. he has written extensively about ECOMOICS covering ever aspect of the economy

you jess looking excuse

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5 days 4 hours ago - 5 days 4 hours ago #380843 by ketchim

mapoui wrote: wat difference does that make..none at all. we know the story.

He don't know the story ....outta touch and just regurgitating
Betcha he wrote that exact same lines : 20 years ago ! :woohoo:

ZERO mention of zero interest rates viz a vis COVID-19
Bail out by Central bank to the tune of Trillions....

maaaannnn...Hudson need a swim in the Hudson river :whistle:
where that fellah land him Plane ~
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5 days 4 hours ago - 5 days 4 hours ago #380844 by mapoui
But I am not defending Hudson as such..no need to...the man is proven.

what Hudson says is solid. is you who defend the opposite - commercial banks...the real criminals in the piece
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